TitleDance of Lotuslight
OccupationZubayr Theater
Weapon Sword
Element Hydro
Day of Birth3
Month of Birth12
Vision (Introduced)Hydro
Constellation (Introduced)Lotos Somno
Chinese Seuyu紫苏九月
Japanese Seuyu金元寿子
English SeuyuDani Chambers
Korean SeuyuChae Rim
DescriptionThe star of the Zubayr Theater. She is full of warmth and innocence, and her dances are lively and elegant.
Character Ascension Materials
Varunada Lazurite Sliver
Varunada Lazurite Fragment
Varunada Lazurite Chunk
Varunada Lazurite Gemstone
Perpetual Caliber
Fungal Spores
Luminescent Pollen
Crystalline Cyst Dust
Skill Ascension Materials
Teachings of Praxis
Guide to Praxis
Philosophies of Praxis
Tears of the Calamitous God
Crown of Insight

Table of Content
Skill Ascension
Related Items


LvHPAtkDefCritRate%CritDMG%Bonus HP%MaterialsTotal Materials
Varunada Lazurite Sliver1
Fungal Spores3
Varunada Lazurite Sliver1
Fungal Spores3
Varunada Lazurite Fragment3
Perpetual Caliber2
Fungal Spores15
Varunada Lazurite Sliver1
Fungal Spores18
Varunada Lazurite Fragment3
Perpetual Caliber2
Varunada Lazurite Fragment6
Perpetual Caliber4
Luminescent Pollen12
Varunada Lazurite Sliver1
Fungal Spores18
Varunada Lazurite Fragment9
Perpetual Caliber6
Luminescent Pollen12
Varunada Lazurite Chunk3
Perpetual Caliber8
Luminescent Pollen18
Varunada Lazurite Sliver1
Fungal Spores18
Varunada Lazurite Fragment9
Perpetual Caliber14
Luminescent Pollen30
Varunada Lazurite Chunk3
Varunada Lazurite Chunk6
Perpetual Caliber12
Crystalline Cyst Dust12
Varunada Lazurite Sliver1
Fungal Spores18
Varunada Lazurite Fragment9
Perpetual Caliber26
Luminescent Pollen30
Varunada Lazurite Chunk9
Crystalline Cyst Dust12
Varunada Lazurite Gemstone6
Perpetual Caliber20
Crystalline Cyst Dust24
Varunada Lazurite Sliver1
Fungal Spores18
Varunada Lazurite Fragment9
Perpetual Caliber46
Luminescent Pollen30
Varunada Lazurite Chunk9
Crystalline Cyst Dust36
Varunada Lazurite Gemstone6


Active Skils

Normal Attack: Dance of Samser
Normal Attack
Performs up to 3 consecutive sword strikes.

Charged Attack
Consumes a certain amount of Stamina to perform a twirling slash.

Plunging Attack
Plunges from mid-air to strike the ground below, damaging opponents along the path and dealing AoE DMG upon impact.
1-Hit DMG50.31%54.4%58.5%64.35%68.44%73.12%79.56%85.99%92.43%99.44%106.46%113.48%120.5%127.52%134.54%
2-Hit DMG45.44%49.14%52.84%58.12%61.82%66.04%71.86%77.67%83.48%89.82%96.16%102.5%108.84%115.18%121.52%
3-Hit DMG70.35%76.08%81.81%89.99%95.71%102.26%111.26%120.26%129.26%139.07%148.89%158.71%168.52%178.34%188.16%
Charged Attack DMG50.22% + 54.44%54.31% + 58.87%58.4% + 63.3%64.24% + 69.63%68.33% + 74.06%73% + 79.12%79.42% + 86.09%85.85% + 93.05%92.27% + 100.01%99.28% + 107.61%106.29% + 115.21%113.3% + 122.8%120.3% + 130.4%127.31% + 137.99%134.32% + 145.59%
Charged Attack Stamina Cost202020202020202020202020202020
Plunge DMG63.93%69.14%74.34%81.77%86.98%92.93%101.1%109.28%117.46%126.38%135.3%144.22%153.14%162.06%170.98%
Low/High Plunge DMG127.84% / 159.68%138.24% / 172.67%148.65% / 185.67%163.51% / 204.24%173.92% / 217.23%185.81% / 232.09%202.16% / 252.51%218.51% / 272.93%234.86% / 293.36%252.7% / 315.64%270.54% / 337.92%288.38% / 360.2%306.22% / 382.48%324.05% / 404.76%341.89% / 427.04%
Dance of Haftkarsvar
Enters the Pirouette state, dealing Hydro DMG to nearby opponents based on Nilou’s Max HP.
While she is in the Pirouette state, Nilou’s Normal Attacks and Elemental Skill will cause her to enter the Sword Dance and Whirling Steps stances respectively, causing DMG she deals to be converted to Hydro DMG that cannot be overridden and that is considered Elemental Skill DMG.

In these stances, Nilou’s third dance step will end Pirouette, and has the following effects based on the type of said dance step:
·Sword Dance: unleashes a Luminous Illusion that deals Hydro DMG to opponents it touches and grants Nilou the Lunar Prayer effect. This effect converts Nilou’s Normal Attacks into Sword Dance techniques, and her final hit will unleash a Luminous Illusion.
·Whirling Steps: Nilou unleashes a Whirling Water Wheel that deals AoE Hydro DMG and creates a Tranquility Aura that follows your active character around and applies Wet to opponents within its AoE.

Nilou is unable to perform Charged Attacks when under the effect of Pirouette or Lunar Prayer. These effects will be removed once she leaves the field.

“Daintily her toes touch the water’s face, and the light that ripples forth equals even the seven heavens.”
Skill DMG3.34% Max HP3.59% Max HP3.84% Max HP4.17% Max HP4.42% Max HP4.67% Max HP5.01% Max HP5.34% Max HP5.68% Max HP6.01% Max HP6.34% Max HP6.68% Max HP7.1% Max HP7.51% Max HP7.93% Max HP
Sword Dance/Whirling Steps 1-Hit DMG4.55% / 3.26% Max HP4.89% / 3.51% Max HP5.24% / 3.75% Max HP5.69% / 4.08% Max HP6.03% / 4.32% Max HP6.37% / 4.57% Max HP6.83% / 4.89% Max HP7.28% / 5.22% Max HP7.74% / 5.55% Max HP8.19% / 5.87% Max HP8.65% / 6.2% Max HP9.1% / 6.52% Max HP9.67% / 6.93% Max HP10.24% / 7.34% Max HP10.81% / 7.75% Max HP
Sword Dance/Whirling Steps 2-Hit DMG5.14% / 3.96% Max HP5.53% / 4.26% Max HP5.92% / 4.55% Max HP6.43% / 4.95% Max HP6.82% / 5.25% Max HP7.2% / 5.54% Max HP7.72% / 5.94% Max HP8.23% / 6.34% Max HP8.75% / 6.73% Max HP9.26% / 7.13% Max HP9.77% / 7.52% Max HP10.29% / 7.92% Max HP10.93% / 8.42% Max HP11.58% / 8.91% Max HP12.22% / 9.41% Max HP
Luminous Illusion/Water Wheel DMG7.17% / 5.06% Max HP7.71% / 5.44% Max HP8.24% / 5.82% Max HP8.96% / 6.33% Max HP9.5% / 6.71% Max HP10.04% / 7.09% Max HP10.75% / 7.59% Max HP11.47% / 8.1% Max HP12.19% / 8.6% Max HP12.9% / 9.11% Max HP13.62% / 9.62% Max HP14.34% / 10.12% Max HP15.23% / 10.76% Max HP16.13% / 11.39% Max HP17.03% / 12.02% Max HP
Pirouette Duration10s10s10s10s10s10s10s10s10s10s10s10s10s10s10s
Lunar Prayer Duration8s8s8s8s8s8s8s8s8s8s8s8s8s8s8s
Tranquility Aura Duration12s12s12s12s12s12s12s12s12s12s12s12s12s12s12s
Dance of Abzendegi: Distant Dreams, Listening Spring
Begins the dance of faraway dreams and springs that hear, causing a Lotus of Distant Waters to bloom, dealing AoE Hydro DMG based on Nilou’s Max HP and applying the Lingering Aeon effect to all opponents hit.
After an interval, opponents affected by Lingering Aeon will take Hydro DMG.

“We have never witnessed that distant dream, but this dance can bring it to life.”
Skill DMG18.43% Max HP19.81% Max HP21.2% Max HP23.04% Max HP24.42% Max HP25.8% Max HP27.65% Max HP29.49% Max HP31.33% Max HP33.18% Max HP35.02% Max HP36.86% Max HP39.17% Max HP41.47% Max HP43.78% Max HP
Lingering Aeon DMG22.53% Max HP24.22% Max HP25.91% Max HP28.16% Max HP29.85% Max HP31.54% Max HP33.79% Max HP36.04% Max HP38.3% Max HP40.55% Max HP42.8% Max HP45.06% Max HP47.87% Max HP50.69% Max HP53.5% Max HP
Energy Cost707070707070707070707070707070

Passive Skills

White Jade Lotus
When Perfect Cooking is achieved on Food with Adventure-related effects, there is a 12% chance to obtain double the product.
Court of Dancing Petals
When all characters in the party are all Dendro or Hydro, and there are at least one Dendro character and one Hydro character:
The completion of the third dance step of Nilou’s Dance of Haftkarsvar will grant all nearby characters the Golden Chalice’s Bounty for 30s upon its completion.
Characters under the effect of Golden Chalice’s Bounty will increase the Elemental Mastery of all nearby characters by 100 for 10s whenever they are hit by Dendro attacks. Also, triggering the Bloom reaction will create Bountiful Cores instead of Dendro Cores.
Such Cores will burst very quickly after being created, and they have larger AoEs.
Bountiful Cores cannot trigger Hyperbloom or Burgeon, and they share an upper numerical limit with Dendro Cores. Bountiful Core DMG is considered DMG dealt by Dendro Cores produced by Bloom.
Should the party not meet the conditions for this Passive Talent, any existing Golden Chalice’s Bounty effects will be canceled.
Dreamy Dance of Aeons
Every 1,000 points of Nilou’s Max HP above 30,000 will cause the DMG dealt by Bountiful Cores created by characters affected by Golden Chalice’s Bounty to increase by 9%.
The maximum increase in Bountiful Core DMG that can be achieved this way is 400%.


Dance of the Waning Moon
Dance of Haftkarsvar will be enhanced as follows:
·Luminous Illusion DMG is increased by 65%.
·The Tranquility Aura’s duration is extended by 6s.
The Starry Skies Their Flowers Rain
After characters affected by the Golden Chalice’s Bounty deal Hydro DMG to an opponent, that opponent’s Hydro RES will be decreased by 35% for 10s. After a triggered Bloom reaction deals DMG to opponents, their Dendro RES will be decreased by 35% for 10s.
You need to have unlocked the “Court of Dancing Petals” Talent.
Beguiling Shadowstep
Increases the Level of Dance of Abzendegi: Distant Dreams, Listening Spring by 3.
Maximum upgrade level is 15.
Fricative Pulse
After the third dance step of Dance of Haftkarsvar‘s Pirouette hits opponents, Nilou will gain 15 Elemental Energy, and DMG from her Dance of Abzendegi: Distant Dreams, Listening Spring will be increased by 50% for 8s.
Twirling Light
Increases the Level of Dance of Haftkarsvar by 3.
Maximum upgrade level is 15.
Frostbreaker’s Melody
For every 1,000 points of Max HP, Nilou’s CRIT Rate and CRIT DMG will increase by 0.6% and 1.2% respectively.
The maximum increase in CRIT Rate and CRIT DMG via this method is 30% and 60% respectively.

Skill Ascension


Party Switch
Party Switch when teammate is under 30% HP
Opening Chest
Normal Attack
Medium Attack
Heavy Attack
Taking Damage (Low)
Taking Damage (High)
Battle Skill #1
Battle Skill #3
Sprinting Starts
Heavy Breathing (Climbing)
Open World Gliding (Start)
Open World Idle
Idle Performance


Audio Language:
Chat: Practice
Chat: Sleepiness
Chat: Rest
When It Rains
When Thunder Strikes
When It Snows
When the Sun Is Out
When the Wind Is Blowing
Good Morning
Good Afternoon
Good Evening
Unlocks at Friendship Lv. 4
Good Night
About Nilou: Body Language
About Nilou: Dance and Wisdom
Unlocks at Friendship Lv. 4
About Us: Dealing with Anger
About Us: Going on Adventures
Unlocks at Friendship Lv. 6
About the Vision
Unlocks at Friendship Lv. 4
Something to Share
Interesting Things: Dance of the Crystalflies
Interesting Things: Padisarahs
Complete “The Morn a Thousand Roses Brings.”
About Cyno
Unlocks at Friendship Lv. 4
About Tighnari
Unlocks at Friendship Lv. 4
About Collei
Unlocks at Friendship Lv. 4
About Kaveh
Unlocks at Friendship Lv. 4
About Dehya
Unlocks at Friendship Lv. 4
About Dori
Unlocks at Friendship Lv. 4
About Lesser Lord Kusanali
Unlocks at Friendship Lv. 4
More About Nilou: I
More About Nilou: II
Unlocks at Friendship Lv. 3
More About Nilou: III
Unlocks at Friendship Lv. 4
More About Nilou: IV
Unlocks at Friendship Lv. 5
More About Nilou: V
Unlocks at Friendship Lv. 6
Nilou’s Hobbies
Nilou’s Troubles
Favorite Food
Least Favorite Food
Receiving a Gift: I
Receiving a Gift: II
Receiving a Gift: III
Feelings About Ascension: Intro
Unlocks at Ascension Phase 1
Feelings About Ascension: Building Up
Unlocks at Ascension Phase 2
Feelings About Ascension: Climax
Unlocks at Ascension Phase 4
Feelings About Ascension: Conclusion
Unlocks at Ascension Phase 6
Elemental Skill: I
Elemental Skill: II
Elemental Skill: III
Elemental Burst: I
Elemental Burst: II
Elemental Burst: III
Opening Treasure Chest: I
Opening Treasure Chest: II
Opening Treasure Chest: III
Low HP: I
Low HP: II
Ally at Low HP: I
Ally at Low HP: II
Fallen: I
Fallen: II
Fallen: III
Heavy Hit Taken: I
Heavy Hit Taken: II
Joining Party: I
Joining Party: II
Joining Party: III


Character Details“Since you’re in Sumeru, you must not miss Nilou’s performances.”
This is a fact that most people in Sumeru agree on.
There is no threshold for Nilou’s dances, so everyone can come and enjoy a most fascinating and engrossing time there.
Nilou’s audience comes from all walks of life. Be it a knowledgeable researcher or a mercenary who’s seen true brutality — everyone is attracted here by Nilou’s gorgeous, dancing form.
Every time Nilou takes the stage, a press of people crowds the Grand Bazaar until all are standing shoulder to shoulder.
Rational sense and wisdom are the mainstream in Sumeru, while art, which stands for sensibility, does not enjoy the same popularity and respect.
Yet if wisdom is meaning bestowed upon Sumeru by the goddess, then art stands for meaning that human beings seek for themselves.
Character Story 1Unlike other dancers across the continent who hail from artistic families, Nilou came from an ordinary family in Sumeru.
The life that the family of three once lived was no different from that of many who lived in downtown area.
The knowledge they gained from the Akasha was enough for their common day-to-day lives.
If there was anything special about Nilou’s family, it was that Nilou’s parents’ loved and cared for her very much.
Although the pursuit of scholarship is prevalent in Sumeru, Nilou’s parents never compared Nilou with other children, nor did they expect Nilou to become a researcher.
Growing up happily and living a stable life was all that they wanted for her.
Nilou thus grew up surrounded by love and respect.
Later, even when there were differences of opinion and occasional arguments between her parents, Nilou’s thoughtful and considerate mediation would permit no harm or grudge to ever linger in their family.
Unlocks at Friendship Lv. 2
Character Story 2Every inch of the Grand Bazaar has been measured by Nilou’s footprints, and she keeps everyone at Grand Bazaar in her heart.
Nilou can introduce anyone in the Grand Bazaar in detail, as if they were a family member.
Mr. Jut usually gets up early to make tahchin, so if you want the privilege of having the most delicious bite of freshly cooked tahchin, be sure to get up early!
Mr. Afshin’s storytelling skills are simply divine. His wonderful ingenuity always makes people want to buy his merchandise.
Mr. Hushang, who sells toys, has very dexterous hands. With them, he fashions the most fascinating little toys, and they are very popular amongst children.
And, of course, everyone has long regarded this smart red-haired girl as a family member too.
Every time Nilou goes grocery shopping, she always ends up carrying more items than on her purchase list just by making a single trip through the streets, and the weight of the groceries shows exactly how much people like and take care of Nilou.
Of course, Nilou also takes care of them in return.
Hushang and Farhad may have a quarrel over a bet, about as long as Nilou shows up, the two will surely be reconciled.
If Afshin’s Sumpter Beasts have stolen someone else’s food, Nilou will come forward and help make amends.
If you ask Nilou why she is so enthusiastic, she will answer with a smile:
“Because family is supposed to help each other, hehe.”
For Nilou, her mom and dad are her small family, while everyone in the Grand Bazaar is her big family.
Unlocks at Friendship Lv. 3
Character Story 3Nilou remembers clearly that she met her teacher at the Sabzeruz Festival when she was eight years old.
Back then, the Knight of Flowers gave her a lot of Yalda Candies, and so little Nilou passed by the Zubayr Theater with candies in both hands.
The Sabzeruz Festival is a celebration that features dance, but before, only dance groups from abroad were invited to sing and dance at the festival — and on a temporary stage, to boot.
Now that the Grand Bazaar finally had its own theater, excited people were flocking to the new stage.
Little Nilou managed to squeeze through the crowd to the front of the stage and saw the teacher dance for the first time.
Even though there were no flowers on the stage, at that moment, Nilou felt as if she was watching thousands upon thousands of flowers blooming all at once.
The candies in her hands fell to the ground unnoticed, and she couldn’t help but dance along.
It was only when the dance had ended that little Nilou realized what she had done, and hurriedly apologized to the people around her who had made room.
It was at this moment that her teacher also walked down from the stage in an elegant manner and helped her pick the Yalda Candies back up.
She reached out her hand to little Nilou, and asked gracefully—
“Would you like to join me for a future dance?”
Unlocks at Friendship Lv. 4
Character Story 4Although she has lived her entire life in Sumeru, the city of wisdom, Nilou has never shown any talent in the field of “knowledge.” However, she always knows how to soothe the emotions of others in her own way.
“This is probably a generous gift to me from Lesser Lord Kusanali.”
After learning to dance with her teacher, Nilou became deeply aware of the power of body language.
Combining her talents and knowledge of body language, she created her very own form of “body movement therapy.”
For example, when Mr. Zubayr is angry, everyone in the theater would be walking on eggshells.
But Nilou would keep a warm smile, drawing wonderful patterns one after another in the air with her arms and fingers.
“Imagine that we are in the rainforest that has just rained, and that you are following me as we walk onward, saying hello to every animal that passes by, waving, leaving everything else behind…”
Perhaps this may seem childish and funny to a bystander, but for those who are wrapped up in the moment, Nilou’s gentle voice can cause the anger that clouds their minds to disappear before they even know it.
What’s even more amazing is that, according to Mr. Afshin, this body movement therapy has been trending recently — and it even works on his two stubborn Sumpter Beasts…
Unlocks at Friendship Lv. 5
Character Story 5Be it in day-to-day life or her performances on stage, Nilou has always maintained a simple attitude—
To melt everyone’s worries away and let comfort and ease waltz in.
But when “trouble” comes to her, she is often distressed due to her inability to make the call.
Tahchin sure is delicious, but Pita Pocket is also good, and I also saw someone holding a Potato Boat that seemed really yummy. Which one should I eat tonight?
I’ve heard people talk about places outside Sumeru City… the pure white snowy mountain and windmills the size of giants… Should I also consider going out for a trip?
Nilou can often find good reasons to go with any of the options she is considering, and so they are like Forest Tree Frogs sitting across from one another with bellies out, not one able to win the others over.
But if there was a person who could make a decision at this time and tell her with confidence and calm:
“Why not have half the amount of each and share them with me?”
“And as for those places you have never been to, I have already set foot there. I can assure you that they are safe.”
…Nilou would dismiss her hesitation in an instant and raise her arms in a dance-like graceful gesture of thanks, before indulging in the joy of having solved a great problem for a long time indeed.
Unlocks at Friendship Lv. 6
Letters from the AudienceRefusing to accept gifts on stage has been a long-standing rule in the Zubayr Theater.
Sometimes, the audiences do still get too excited and may insist on giving various kinds of gifts to Nilou. That said, such givers will definitely receive a gift in return the very next day, along with a note that has been left at their doors…
“Thank you for your kindness. If you would like to express your love for Nilou’s dance, you may write a letter to the Zubayr Theater instead of sending gifts.”
And so it came to pass that like snow flakes dancing and falling in the air, letters filled with the audience members’ passionate praise have been sent in batches and droves by the Dusk Birds to the theater’s mailbox.
During her free time when there are no shows or rehearsals, Nilou will read every letter carefully, share this joy with the other members of the Zubayr Theater, and then carefully preserve these letters.
Every word and every expression of recognition and fondness in the letters is worth remembering and appreciating.
As Nilou bettered her dancing skills, more and more people came to watch her dance, and in time, the letters have added up to quite the stack indeed.
But if someone cracks a joke, saying that Nilou is the most valuable treasure in the Zubayr Theater, she will definitely shake her head with a sweet smile.
“Our most valuable treasure is our audience’s love, and it is all carefully stored in one mysterious box.”
Unlocks at Friendship Lv. 4
VisionNilou has heard her teacher talk about the meaning of dance more than once. From her teacher’s perspective, dance is born from human life and has belonged to everyone from the very beginning.
“As a dancer, you should convey emotions on stage, and your audience’s smiles are their response to the emotions conveyed in your dance.”
Nilou was well aware that she was nowhere near as good at thinking about the “meaning” behind things as Akademiya researchers. But still, she practiced diligently each day under the direction of her teacher and planned to continue following in her footsteps.
When she finally first took the stage, she quickly became completely immersed in the performance, holding nothing back.
She thought of the wind, the moon, the gentle sound of the rose blooming, the feeling of stroking the tail feathers of Dusk Birds, and a myriad of beautiful things that existed in this world.
She wanted to display the beauty she perceived in her heart to the entire audience through her dance.
Slowly, splashes of water ran together, converging into a lake on the stage. Like a Crystalfly dancing on a lake’s surface, Nilou gently fluttered back and forth, and the lake-mirror rippled slightly in time to her steps.
Like a water lily, her body swirled in the middle of that lake. Amazed at such pure and flawless beauty, the audience almost forgot to breathe.
After the curtain fell, Nilou flopped down on the backstage chair and took deep breaths.
Like dewdrops on a lotus leaf, a Hydro Vision had appeared at her waist.
Nilou thought then that she had perhaps found the purpose of dance at last —
“To become beauty, and then to convey the beauty and value of art.”
Unlocks at Friendship Lv. 6

958 responses to “Nilou”

      • If you are a whale, then it’s probably Gilded Dreams. C6 can give 30CR and 60CD. You easily get 50CR and 100CD from artifacts, which puts you at 80CR and 160 CD. With an R5 signature weapon and 70k HP you get ~500 EM from 3 stacks of its thing, another 180 from 4 piece guilded and another ~200 from Dendro resonance and her own passive procs.

      • With how they worked her passive to transform bloom into another effect. Maybe there is hope that they can make new interesting Geo Characters that transforms Crystallize into an offensive interaction. Like make the crystallize crystals explode dealing damage type based on the element of the crystal.

    • 4p Millelith if nobody else has it, otherwise 2p Millelith (Skill and Burst scales on HP like Yelan) + 2p Gilded/Wanderer’s (She bloom)

      Just to be clear, she DOES need ER to funnel up her 70 Energy cost burst, however, if you have a double Hydro character like Kokomi or Xingqiu, it will be fine. She still needs ER though.

    • Meta players are try hards lol
      The game isn’t even hard.

      They should push for harder content instead. Push for higher world level with lvl 100-200 overworld enemies.

  1. Is there a way we could bring Zajef’s idea about handling Nilou’s A1 passive requirements to HYV’s attention? He suggests that Nilou’s Bountiful Cores could explode after different times based on the number of Hydro/Dendro characters added to the party. Each Hydro/Dendro team member added would decrease the explosion timer by a specified amount. It’s a really interesting mechanic. It would still allow Hydro-Dendro teams to shine and be the most optimal compositions, but doesn’t prevent Nilou’s Bountiful Cores from being generated when various elements are in the team.

    … Instead of fighting amongst ourselves all over social media. No point in harassing and insulting each other when HYV is the one who introduced Bountiful Cores and has the sole ability to modify its mechanic.

    • I don’t know if a timer would change anything since we can still play with the “more than 5 seeds” on the ground to ignore it. Maybe a scaling of the A4 depending on how many hydro/dendro member will work better ?

      • I suppose a type of scaling with the A4 could also be a possibility (I’m not a TCer or math person, so I can’t analyze the finer details). But anything that has some sort of bracketed buff mechanic (like Gorou’s) for the Bountiful Cores would get better reception by the community in general.

          • I completely agree with your evaluation and sentiments here, Dnoyr. It’s a longshot, but here’s hoping that HYV becomes aware of the players’ concerns about this and considers implementing an alternative that is more lenient.

      • Passive 1 (A2) is not without it’s merit. It have larger AoE and increase other party member’s EM stats.
        Passive 2 (A4) is already quite a meh effect on it’s own without the limitation, so making it scales down makes it downright bad and not worth the effort.

        Though what I really want to say here is that, I agree with OP. We shouldn’t go after each other. Our common enemy here is hyv themselves. So please, anyone with rational mind, stop whiteknighting for hyv. We need bigger than zhongli incident kind of backlash against hyv to accomplish a proper change. We won’t achieve it by fighting against each other, start and telling hyv to #stopMakingRestrictedImpact everywhere possible.

        • Backlash and rioting hasn’t been working in the long run either though. Otherwise, a kit like Nilou’s would have been different to begin with. We’re looking for consistency in the quality of content going forward. Not temporary responses to backlash.

          • What’s your alternative then? Continue the status quo? Just like a boomer, hoping to make a change, by doing the absolute exact same thing that have been proven to be not working at all. That’s the definition of madness.

            Rioting against hyv have been proven to work. Not good long term? Then make the riot a long term strategy, never give them a moment to breathe and start over with their scummy shenanigans. Because the alternative, that is giving them the benefit of the doubt, makes absolutely zero positive change.

          • I said “..hasn’t been working in the long run either”. As in, neither following the status quo nor rioting has really been working. I admit, I don’t have an ideal solution, but I was implying that something entirely different could be done instead. In the meantime, just save your money if you don’t agree with their practices.

    • I mean… there is any point in change that? If you think about it, A1 passive is one hell of a nightmare to balance to begin with if you remove the restrictions.

      Just think about it: Nilou Bountiful Cores explode faster, have a bigger AOE, and A2 passive give them even more damage that they already have. But the important part of this that you cannot use hyperbloom or burgeon on them. Now, if you allow other elements to be in the party, some interesting things happen.

      The first one is the obvious one: Fridge comps will be way too powerful. Like… a lot. People ignore the insane amount of damage Bountiful Cores will do in the first place, so it will be practically impossible to balance the correct amount of damage that dendro cores in general should do, making the reaction useless if they nerf it to the ground.
      Of course, the same goes for Pyro and Electro. Teams that can proc Bloom, Electrocharge and Quicken or Bloom, Vaporize and Burning will be way to strong. You literally will have 3 reactions all the time, and that’s just with 3 elements, let alone having 4 in the same team. It will seriously outdamage any other come in the game, leading HYV to nerf the cores to the ground and, then again, making the reaction unplayable.

      And if you really want to think about it, 2 dendro 2 hydros is without a doubt the comp that Nilou really wants since Dendro and Hydro resonances are literally everything she needs to be played with little to no investment whatsoever.

      While I think the restrictions are a little stupid, I kinda understand why HYV made Nilou the way they make her. I mean, Itto and Hu Tao are fine being played in similar conditions, why Nilou will be any different?

  2. It’s time to D-dd-dddddddddddddddddd-ddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddd———–

    Ddd-doompost. Ddo-doom-ddd-doompost! Repeat after me boys, dodododo, doompost! Doompost doompost doompost doompost doompost doompost doompost doompost doompost doompost doompost doompost doompost doompost doompost doompost doompost doompost doompost doompost doompost doompost doompost doompost dd-doomposting!

    IDK what doompost is, I just saw criticism, and I call it doomposting, cuz it’s a fun trend! IDK who normalize the use of it, but it definitely wasn’t hyv. They definitely didn’t deliberately make the use of such extremely unpleasant word that used to be popular back in the days of religious people spreading hoaxes about the end of the world is nigh. I mean, idk if doompost literally mean talking about the end is nigh with no scientific efidence at all, hyv whiteknights popularize that word just for fun! Definitely not to deflect every single criticism by turning it into a doompost strawman.

    So bois, repeat after me… dodododo, doompost! Doompost doompost doompost doompost doompost doompost doompost doompost doompost doompost doompost doompost doompost doompost doompost doompost doompost doompost doompost doompost doompost doompost doompost doompost dd-doomposting!

    • “Doomposting” has everything to do with tone and context. There is a difference between constructive criticism vs. sprinkling one’s concerns with passive aggressive (or even direct) accusations and insults. At present, no one can provide truly factual evidence since Nilou isn’t in the game yet. It’s “doom” based on private server stats and leaked info.

      Your spamming does nothing to help the situation.

    • lol now that I think about it… this is the kind of exchange that often happen:

      “I don’t think nilou’s passive is any good guys… it’s so restrictive and obviously designed to force future character constellation sales.”
      doomass: DOOMPOST!
      real person: agree, we need to unite and demand a fix from hyv

      “I think cyno have a huge problem with his uptime not lining up well with any good aggravate team.”
      real person: true, but I’m still excited for him cause I’m too lazy to play quickswap anyway.

      “Hyv killed raiden-beidou to force C2 sales.”
      doomass: You know what our reply going to be, they know what our reply going to be, I know what our reply going to be. *whispers doompost
      real person: it’s working for them, look at raiden sales. Corporates listen to profit. They only listen to complaint if it’s affecting their profit, and since the community is a bunch of sheep doomass, just forget about it and let it go, raidou will never ever happen.

      Yea, everything is just doompost by this point. I’m in awe on how such an old and long forgotten word used to describe actual doomposter of religious lunatics re-surfaces recently with it’s definition completely changed to deflect every single criticism.

      • Sorry, but how do you understand constructive criticism from the players? Write complaints, posts, with formulas, calculations, media for what? So that, as you put it, a flock of sheep buy this broken toy and vote for a positive trend.
        Hyv listens only to the ringing of the coin, as long as there is profit, they will create utter nonsense and experiment, it’s time to understand this. 2 years have passed since the release and another 3 years of guaranteed support is provided.

      • Nowhere did I suggest spending money on aspects of the game that don’t meet players’ expectations. All the forms of feedback that you listed can yield constructive criticism without spending a dime on what HYV is offering. Especially since the game itself is F2P.

        Yes, the best way to get a company’s attention is to affect their bottom line. But you do realize it’s possible to provide feedback and not spend at the same time, right? You’re assuming that the same people who are looking for and suggesting solutions are also spending money on the game, which isn’t true. Calling other players a flock of sheep isn’t fair. “Doompost” is a lame trend now because of the people who’ve posted things like “Raiden is a copium character, skip” in Reddit, Twiter, etc, with no evidence to back it up. This doesn’t include the people who actually have concrete reasons for their criticisms.

        Rather than focusing on people you can’t control who spend on the game and blaming them, why not help push real change? I don’t know about you, but rioting and pointing fingers for one-off changes (Zhongli’s kit) and short term pacifiers (Anniversary rewards), isn’t good enough to ensure the quality of future characters and in-game benefits.

      • Tbh, that guy looks like they’re having a blast tho. Idk if OP is the one who need to relax, or it’s you. OP doesn’t seem to be malding. Or maybe OP need to relax with their /s cause it’s fking mount doom over there. Imma just grab some pop corn and watch the world burns.

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