71 responses to “申鹤”

1. will she be good with wriothesley? I mean he does a lot of NA so the stacks are gonna be over really quick?

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   • Yes, even if you have her C0 and her E gives only 7 hits of extra damage, she still lowers the enemie’s cryo res and gives cryo dmg bonus with her burst, and with pressed E, she will give bonus damage to normal and charged attacks. And the quills of course, will make 7 instances of damage REALLY strong.

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2. SSS — Shenhe, Eula. (rosaria older version(sobs))
   SS—– Beidou, yelan, rosaria
   S——- Lisa,
   A——- Ningguan, Jean, Sara
   B——- Yae, raiden, dehya
   C…………………………………………………..

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   • voluptuous tier list><?

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3. Shenhe is just a passive/constellation bonus made into a hot mama character to milk out the coomers

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   • Why would you say something so controversial yet so brave?

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   • Your statements is controversial, but i can’t counter you because i think you’re f*cking right dude

     And you know what? Technically i tempted with this “Hot Mama Trap”, and finally pulls her and her signature… xD xD

     No regret 😉

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4. Is my c0 Shenhe stat good?

   Fav R5 – 4 NO – 1//10/10

   3108 atk – 34.9% cr – 170.1% er

   U can share ur build for my references

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   • its okay i think.

     grasscutter
     3459 atk
     213 ER
     41/99 CR – but i don’t think you really should care about her ratios

     i made something with a pure atk earlier reaching around 3700+ atk
     but it has like 120 ER so its kinda bad

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     • I never use shenhe burst,
       since it will eat up quota
       from E talent quickly.

       so I prefer 3700 atk low ER
       as u said before,
       than high er for burst uptime.
       shenhe burst only contribute small.
       her main function come from E.

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       • Her quills her per characters, so if you just E, you only use one Shenhe’s quill, unless you use her with Chongyun to cryo NA with her. Her burst doesn’t eat up your other characters’s quills =3

         Her burst is still 15% res shred and 15% cryo DMG bonus, it’s still nice to have to boost even more your cryo damage (since it boost your cryo carry and shenhe’s quills). And it’s cryo app to maintain freeze during the rotation =3

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       • don’t worry about using other skills, quills are counted separately for different characters.

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       • it’s much better to drop attack in order to maintain burst uptime; using quills quickly is, uh, the point

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       • If you aren’t using her Burst, then you aren’t activating Noblesse. If you aren’t using Noblesse, then that’s especially dumb unless you only use her in reverse melt with Bennet (which is a very questionable application), as it’s rare for there to be a better Noblesse carrier in her teams.

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     • I care about crit bcz I use fav ?

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       • Oh then it’s okay.
         Since you’d have cryo resonance as well for more CR
         Her cons are kinda good too, at the very least up to c2
         Quite the luxurious thought though

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   • Yup that’s great =D With Fav, I had 3 029 atk so yours is even better =3

     Mine is Missive Windspear R5
     4p NO, 2/10/8
     3189 Atk, 171,9 ER, 30/70 crit ratio. =3

     She goes to 183 ER thanks to Xiphos Kazuha =3

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5. So, I got her, even though I was sure that I would lose 50/50, because I had 13 losses in a row under my belt… but ok, I don’t mind.
   And frankly, I don’t understand her value. IMHO, this unit is absolutely of no value.
   I lvl’d her up to 90, gave her a fav lance R5, talents are 1-9-9 (I don’t want to give her any crown, because I only have 3), 3k atk, 2pc emblem + 2pc shimenawa
   I have C0 Ayaka (amenoma) and Ganyu (hamaumi) and I don’t think Shenhe is even useful for them… ESPECIALLY for Ayaka.
   Let’s be honest. Her E is a joke. It’s useless garbage that exists only for energy orbs generation. Yeah, the damage increase on NA’s and charged’s is noticable, but guys, you can sling mud at me all you want, but it’s NOT insane. Not even near, especially after dendro release. And the most worst and annoying part of it is ABSOLUTELY ABSURD limitation. Just 5/7 with 10/15s cd is just insane in a bad way. In most situations this buff disappears after ONE Ayaka’s and Ganyu charge because of enemie’s amount. And after that, you only have a VERY weak buff on charged attacks from her A4. Ironically, all of the problems resolves with her C6 and it’s ridiculous, because her C6 must to be on her basic kit (well, with some changes ofc. Let’s say… Not an infinite buff, but with limitation on 30/50. But NOT 5/7 just wtf). And it will not be really broken and Shenhe could justify her rarity.
   Her Q is also a joke. VERY high cost for almost nothing, REALLY TINY AOE please it’s not even fun hoyo, ICD and almost no dmg, very short lifetime of this circle (that solves with her C2 lol). Yeah, yeah, she’s increasing a cryo dmg and decreasing resistance, but again, it’s not even insane numbers. Ganyu has 100% uptime of her Q with the same cryo dmg increasing for all and larger AoE. Yeah, she’s not decreasing an enemie’s resistance, but she’s doing damage with her Q at least, Shenhe doesn’t.
   Yes, she’s not a garbage unit. But she’s also not good (at least on C0).
   And I’m sure: we don’t get any charged’s buffers JUST because of Shenhe’s existance. Otherwise she’ll become a useless character even in her current niche.
   I tried her in abyss and I can say, she’s not an improvement over Ganyu as support for Ayaka. MAYBE she’s a tiny improvement over Ganyu if u have Kazuha idk, I just don’t have him, but without him….
   VERY expensive unit, that NEEDS a C6 just to be good. However pre-C6 she’s just a decoration for teapot and just a collectionable unit for waifu lovers, but this is not my case.
   I will just lvl her friendship lvl up to 10 and forget about her existence forever

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   • TLDR : OP just love to write bullshit with some word in capital letters

     She is a cryo specific but you can’t say she don’t do the job fine for cryo unit. You can replace her with Bennett but you lose cryo resonance, cryo app and she gives many differents buffs and not just attack value. And she don’t need cons to work fine.

     I can’t compare with Ganyu since I don’t have her but it’s more a matter of seeing bigger numbers on Ayaka vs many smaller number with Ayaka and Ganyu. If Ganyu was a better support for Ayaka, everyone would have known it in over the last year and Shenhe would have not been so much waited.

     Just see her has a DPS unit who use Ayaka or Ganyu’s stats to deal damage. So the more you buff your main cryo carry, the more damage Shenhe do (through them). She works fine with Rosaria in reverse melt too. And in mono cryo, she allow Layla to deal some nice damage while being a defensive unit. Shotgun Diona meme is fun in overworld too. You can use Shenhe with ANY cryo unit and she is not restricted to Atk or HP scaling units. She is futurproof imo.

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     • Actually, where is the bullshit? I just share my opinion on the character that I got. Man, it’s not even my problem that you like her but I don’t. If you have any complaints about my text, then these are also not my problems, I try my best in a non-native language. An interesting decision is unpleasant to taunt simply because someone, oh my God, what a horror, does not share YOUR enthusiasm for a unit that is not the best IMO(!!!!!!!!!!), which cannot adequately do her job without C6.
       She does her job just OK. Not bad, but not great at all. You won’t lose any cryo resonance if you use the second cryo AND Bennett, sacrificing, for example, CC. You won’t lose cryo app using Bennett because he doesn’t apply pyro on enemies off-field, and Ayaka already has a very strong cryo application, but let’s be honest, almost no one uses Bennett with Ayaka, he has enough teams where he will be better. Shenhe doesn’t need the constellations to be OK, but she NEEDS C6 to make her E not useless. Pre-C6 Shenhe’s E is only needed to activate her A4, but this is not a particularly useful thing. This is a small nice bonus, but it does not provide any significant increase in damage, I speak from personal experience. The main increase in damage comes from her E. But her quills is enough for just one Ayaka’s charged attack . There is no point in her E before C6. Get ONE-TWO charged attack that deals 55k-65k instead of 25k is just no worth it.
       She’s OK, nothing more. Not good. Not bad. Just OK. I just don’t understand what the problem is to expand her E buff and make Yunjin level charges limit. 5/7 charges is just ridiculous considering they can be wasted instantly if you can land one hit on 5/7 enemies at once, and I also don’t understand what the problem is to make her burst AoE at Ganyu level. It won’t even be broken, but she’ll become a VERY good if not amazing unit.
       You don’t have to bother answering. Obviously, you will not understand and will not accept my point of view in exactly the same way as I will not understand and accept yours. Do you like Shenhe? Play and write comments about how you like her and how she benefits you. I don’t like Shenhe? I also have the right to write my dissatisfaction and dreams about how they could do her a bit different to make her very good in MY eyes. BTW, this is all a personal opinion, which I don’t impose on anyone.

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       • You have the right to not like the char, I don’t have any problem with that. It’s just that you express you opinion when you say the E is useless and need C6 to be useful, I express mine by saying I think it’s wrong and C0 is fine.
         It’s better to use quills for Ayaka’s burst than for a CA, you usually have more buff for it since it snapshots and you tap E with Shenhe and get 15% more dmg% With Shenhe has an opener, you can tap E twice per Ayaka’s burst. So it’s pretty decent.
         She don’t shine in AoE like Ganyu and she is better in ST/few ennemi scenarios but she does provide buffs enough to justify being used. Since she is close to Ganyu in term of supporting Ayaka, if she is just OK, so Ganyu is.
         I have no problem with you point of you, I just express mine either and why I disagree with you. This is a social media, you have to expect and accept people will agree or not with you otherwise why posting here ?

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       • this comment right here is a proof why most people still need to be told by their favorite youtuber how to build and play a character.
         my god, im baffle how much low iq this comment is. people clowning genshin such an easy and baby game, but want to hand hold by the dev and want every new release unit to be OP as hell with no limitation whatsoever.
         and the fact when people prove your point is wrong and you throw tantrum just to show how much genius of you in this game.

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       • To put it simply

         You just didn’t know how to use Shenhe properly.

         1. Shenhe Quill Stacks ISN’T just for your Carry, but for your ENTIRE PARTY (so the actual limit is 5×4 / 7×4 Quill Stack if you’re using 4 Cryo or 3 Cryo+1 Anemo)

         2. Shenhe Quill Stacks “power” is depend on Critical Damage%+Elemental Damage% from your every units, IT MEANS if your units stat is still so bad you’ll not feels the true power of Shenhe Quill Stacks

         3. Shenhe is indeed EXPENSIVE unit, because you need every units in your party FULLY BUILD first to truly feels the power of her Quill Stacks, even MISTSPLITTER REFORGED is more PRIORITY than her

         But calling her useless or her E useless is STUPIDITY, furthermore you’re pulling on the banner that you didn’t want is already IDIOCY it self

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   • bruh her c6 doesnt solve anything, its actually really bad, it only works on normal and charged attacks but at the point u begin to use them u probably already wasted the quota with burst and e

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   • Yeah, I agree with everything.
     After spending some time in a test build I was convinced that TCs was right, (although there are no case videos with evidence), her buff is very limited. Ayaka doesn’t even notice it, eats up charges very, very quickly, Ganyu can eat it for 3.5 CA. Only kazuha with cryo absorbed and rosaria get an additional benefit as they deal DoT and AoE due to a significant amount of time.
     Her kit is overrated.

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6. Can someone explain how her E buff works? Let’s say, I used Ayaka’s charged attack that hit 3 enemies at once. Will her buff work on each enemy separately (7 stacks for each enemy), or will all 7 stacks of her buff be shared among all enemies? If the latter, then it sounds rather sad and rather useless, but not fatal on bosses. But I’m still confused

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   • To put it simply. each instance of cryo damage consumes one stack. Lets say you used hold E, got 7 stacks, then used Ganyu charged shot on 3 enemies. Since Ganyu shot hits twice, you’re getting -1 stack for the first enemy you are aimed at, then -3 stacks for AoE bloom arrow when it hits all 3 enemies. 7 – 1 – 3 = 3, which means you gonna have 3 stacks left after such shot.
     Also, her E stacks don’t adds up from c1, so even if you got c1 Shenhe, you’re not gonna get 10-14 stacks from two E by pressing it one after another. You always getting 5 or 7, so you need to swap back to Shenhe and refresh her E after all stacks are consumed.

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     • Oh, got it. Thank you for explanation!

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7. Her buff is different from Benny right?
   So you can build her pure atk for support?

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   • Yes, her damage buff scales from your overall Atk, instead of only base Atk like Bennet.

     The buff amount can be increased by:
     – Attack gained from Weapon attack bonus (such as stacking PJWS on field).
     – Team support artifacts from Millelith and Noblesse

     However, it does not use the Atk increase from Bennett’s burst.

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     • Oh, was not expecting that she does not benefit from Benny burst
       Thanks, nice to know I can use my spare PJWS on her

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       • she does benefit from benny but only if shes on the field, the buff doesnt snapshot and most of the time you dont want to onfield her but can be usable iguess

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         • In Rosaria Reverse melt and with C6 Bennett, you can keep Shenhe on field to do pyro NA and enjoy the attack buff for your quills Rosaria can proc off field x3 The main reason I C6ed my Bennett xD

   • Not really much of a “buff” but, more of a “flat damage increase” that scales from her total atk. Similar to YunJin’s burst.

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   • I dont recommend to build her with pure atk build, focusing on her E only. Don’t ignore her Q and ER, especially if you have c0 Shenhe. Giving her full noblesse oblige is also a good idea.

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     • Yup, I ended up with an atk%/er%/atk% using grasscutter since my raiden’s on a 1016 EM DB anyway.
       Currently sitting on 2984 atk at lv 60 with 213% ER.
       Would probably benefit from better artis but I don’t really feel like going to arti hell atm since I have to farm a bunch of talent books now.
       Not to mention killing those Vishaps which are like the least fun enemies to kill >:(

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8. RERUN confirmed for 3.5! LETS GO!!!!!!

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   • How outrageous would it be if Tsaritsa and other future 5 star Cryo characters didn’t scale off attack for their damage? She’s the only unit I’m thinking of whaling for C6 besides Kazuha but I think only Kazuha is future proof fun.

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     • She(shenhe) would be one of the best support for cryo dps anyway since she gives bonus damage base on “Her” atk (not the one who got buff) so just build her with higest atk possible and u will be fine

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9. RESURREXIT!

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10. *Batman rams through the HYVerse building with the Batmobile, ejects out from the car and immediately choke-holds the nearest employee*

    SHENHE!?

    SHENHE!?

    WHERE’S IS SHE!!??

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    • “WHERE ARE THE OTHER PRIMOS GOING?!”

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    • Holy shit Batman you did it! You saved Shenhe!

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