 | Name | 娜维娅 |
| Title | 明花蔓舵 | |
| Occupation | 刺玫会 | |
| Association | FONTAINE | |
| Rarity |  | |
| Weapon |  Claymore | |
| Element |  Geo | |
| Day of Birth | 16 | |
| Month of Birth | 8 | |
| Vision (Introduced) | 岩 | |
| Constellation (Introduced) | 野蔷薇座 | |
| Chinese Seuyu | 小敢 | |
| Japanese Seuyu | 丰崎爱生 | |
| English Seuyu | 布伦娜·拉森 | |
| Korean Seuyu | 丁海恩 | |
| Description | 刺玫会现任会长，一位可爱、尽责的好老板。 | |
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| Related Items |
| Gallery |
| Sounds |
| Quotes |
| Stories |
Stats
| Lv | HP | Atk | Def | CritRate% | CritDMG% | Bonus CritDMG% | Materials | Total Materials |
| 1 | 985 | 27.37 | 61.74 | 5.0% | 50.0% | 0% | ||
| 20 | 2555 | 71.0 | 160.17 | 5.0% | 50.0% | 0% | 1033 20000 | 103320000 |
| 20+ | 3399 | 94.47 | 213.11 | 5.0% | 50.0% | 0% | ||
| 40 | 5086 | 141.36 | 318.88 | 5.0% | 50.0% | 0% | 32101540000 | 1013186000032 |
| 40+ | 5686 | 158.03 | 356.49 | 5.0% | 50.0% | 9.6% | ||
| 50 | 6542 | 181.81 | 410.15 | 5.0% | 50.0% | 9.6% | 64201260000 | 103318120K9612 |
| 50+ | 7341 | 204.05 | 460.3 | 5.0% | 50.0% | 19.2% | ||
| 60 | 8206 | 228.08 | 514.51 | 5.0% | 50.0% | 19.2% | 38301880000 | 106318200K914303 |
| 60+ | 8806 | 244.75 | 552.13 | 5.0% | 50.0% | 19.2% | ||
| 70 | 9679 | 269.0 | 606.84 | 5.0% | 50.0% | 19.2% | 6124512100K | 1010818300K92630912 |
| 70+ | 10278 | 285.68 | 644.45 | 5.0% | 50.0% | 28.8% | ||
| 80 | 11161 | 310.2 | 699.78 | 5.0% | 50.0% | 28.8% | 6206024120K | 1016818420K946309366 |
| 80+ | 11761 | 326.88 | 737.39 | 5.0% | 50.0% | 38.4% | ||
| 90 | 12650 | 351.59 | 793.15 | 5.0% | 50.0% | 38.4% |
Skills
Active Skils
 | 直率的辞绝 | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
进行至多四段的连续挥砍。 持续消耗体力，旋转大剑攻击周围的敌人。 停止旋转时，会进行一次格外有力的挥砍。 从空中下坠冲击地面，攻击下落路径上的敌人，并在落地时造成范围伤害。 | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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 | 典仪式晶火 | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| 队伍中的角色获取结晶反应产生的晶片时，将为娜维娅积攒1枚「裂晶弹片」，至多积攒6枚「裂晶弹片」，每次触发都会刷新已有的「裂晶弹片」持续时间。 施放时，娜维娅将消耗所有的「裂晶弹片」，展开优雅而致命的铳柄伞，打出多枚能够穿透敌人的「玫瑰晶弹」，对命中的敌人造成 消耗0/1/2/3枚及以上的「裂晶弹片」时，将分别打出5/7/9/11枚「玫瑰晶弹」。命中同一个敌人的「玫瑰晶弹」越多，对这名敌人造成的伤害越高；11枚「玫瑰晶弹」全部命中时，将造成原本200%的伤害。 此外，消耗的「裂晶弹片」超过3枚时，超过3枚的每枚「裂晶弹片」都将使本次射击造成的伤害额外提升15%。 进入瞄准状态，持续获取附近的结晶反应产生的晶片，并在结束长按时打出与点按相同的「玫瑰晶弹」。 初始拥有2次可用次数。 每隔一段时间，娜维娅以铳柄伞进行射击时，将唤出流涌之刃，造成具有荒性的 「对应保持距离的人保持应有的距离，也是社交礼仪的一部分，不过，手段毕竟也有很多种啦…」 | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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 | 如霰澄天的鸣礼 | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| 以刺玫会会长之令，召唤华丽的「金花礼炮」，猛烈炮击前方的敌人，造成 炮击命中敌人时，将为娜维娅积攒1枚「裂晶弹片」，此效果每2.4秒至多触发一次。 「刺玫会的礼炮，会为了预先庆祝谈判成功而在谈判前稍稍开火，别误会，一点都没有威吓的意思哦。」 | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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Passive Skills
 | 流程细致的交易 |
| 在枫丹执行时长为20小时的探索派遣任务时，获得的奖励增加25%。 |
 | 不明流通渠道 |
| 施放 |
 | 互助关系网 |
| 队伍中每存在一位 |
Constellations
 | 淑女的距离感守则 |
| 施放 |
 | 总指挥的乘胜追击 |
| 施放 此外，典仪式晶火的射击命中敌人时，将在命中的敌人附近降下一次 |
 | 经营家的开阔视野 |
至多提升至15级。 |
 | 铭誓者的绝不姑息 |
 | 协商人的坚决谈判 |
至多提升至15级。 |
 | 刺玫会长的灵活手腕 |
| 施放 |
Skill Ascension
Related Items
| Icon | Name | Rarity | Family | Recipe |
 | 娜维娅·刺玫 | 4 | Namecard | |
 | 娜维娅 | 1 | Homeworld, 同伴, Exterior Furniture, 同伴, Furniture, Character In-Residence | |
 | 黄丝绒沙龙 | 1 | Costume | |
 | 「选你喜欢的！」 | 3 | Crafted Item, Special Food | |
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Gallery
360 Spin
Idle Animation #1
Idle Animation #2
Combat
Sounds
| Title | EN | CN | JP | KR |
| Party Switch | ||||
| Party Switch when teammate is under 30% HP | ||||
| Party Switch under 30% HP | ||||
| Opening Chest | ||||
| Normal Attack | ||||
| Medium Attack | ||||
| Heavy Attack | ||||
| Taking Damage (Low) | ||||
| Taking Damage (High) | ||||
| Battle Skill #1 | ||||
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| loc_combat_sound_1000208 | ||||
| Battle Skill #3 | ||||
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| Sprinting Starts | ||||
| Jumping | ||||
| Climbing | ||||
| Heavy Breathing (Climbing) | ||||
| Open World Gliding (Start) | ||||
| Open World Idle | ||||
| Fainting | ||||
| Idle Performance |
Quotes
Audio Language:
| Title | VoiceOver |
| 初次见面… | |
| 闲聊·旅行 | |
| 闲聊·经验之谈 | |
| 闲聊·会标 | |
| 下雨的时候… | |
| 打雷的时候… | |
| 下雪的时候… | |
| 阳光很好… | |
| 雨过天晴… | |
| 刮大风了… | |
| 在沙漠的时候… | |
| 早上好… | |
| 中午好… | |
| 晚上好… | |
| 晚安… | |
| 关于娜维娅自己·乐观 | |
| 关于娜维娅自己·运气 | * 好感等级达到4后开启 |
| 关于我们·搭档 | * 完成「仿若无因飘落的轻雨」剧情 |
| 关于我们·保密 | * 好感等级达到6后开启 |
| 关于「神之眼」… | * 好感等级达到4后开启 |
| 有什么想要分享·狗狗 | |
| 有什么想要分享·可靠的刺玫会 | |
| 感兴趣的见闻… | |
| 关于克洛琳德… | * 好感等级达到4后开启 |
| 关于夏洛蒂… | * 好感等级达到4后开启 |
| 关于千织… | * 好感等级达到4后开启 |
| 关于芙宁娜… | * 好感等级达到4后开启 |
| 关于那维莱特… | * 好感等级达到4后开启 |
| 关于莱欧斯利… | * 好感等级达到4后开启 |
| 关于「仆人」… | * 好感等级达到4后开启 |
| 关于林尼和琳妮特… | * 好感等级达到4后开启 |
| 关于爱可菲 | * 好感等级达到4后开启 |
| 想要了解娜维娅·其一 | |
| 想要了解娜维娅·其二 | * 好感等级达到3后开启 |
| 想要了解娜维娅·其三 | * 好感等级达到4后开启 |
| 想要了解娜维娅·其四 | * 好感等级达到5后开启 |
| 想要了解娜维娅·其五 | * 好感等级达到6后开启 |
| 娜维娅的爱好… | |
| 娜维娅的烦恼… | |
| 喜欢的食物… | |
| 讨厌的食物… | |
| 收到赠礼·其一 | |
| 收到赠礼·其二 | |
| 收到赠礼·其三 | |
| 生日… | |
| 突破的感受·起 | * 突破等级「1」阶后开启 |
| 突破的感受·承 | * 突破等级「2」阶后开启 |
| 突破的感受·转 | * 突破等级「4」阶后开启 |
| 突破的感受·合 | * 突破等级「6」阶后开启 |
| 元素战技·其一 | |
| 元素战技·其二 | |
| 元素战技·其三 | |
| 元素战技·其四 | |
| 元素战技·其五 | |
| 元素战技·其六 | |
| 元素爆发·其一 | |
| 元素爆发·其二 | |
| 元素爆发·其三 | |
| 打开宝箱·其一 | |
| 打开宝箱·其二 | |
| 打开宝箱·其三 | |
| 生命值低·其一 | |
| 生命值低·其二 | |
| 生命值低·其三 | |
| 同伴生命值低·其一 | |
| 同伴生命值低·其二 | |
| 倒下·其一 | |
| 倒下·其二 | |
| 倒下·其三 | |
| 普通受击·其一 | |
| 重受击·其一 | |
| 重受击·其二 | |
| 加入队伍·其一 | |
| 加入队伍·其二 | |
| 加入队伍·其三 |
Stories
| Title | Text |
| 角色详细 | 枫丹的律法十分严谨，民风却相对自由。社会内有着大大小小的民间组织，或称帮派，它们起源不一、发展不一、目的不一、风格不一。 比如曾经短暂出现的「帽子水母帮」，这个对外主张保护水域生态环境的组织，其实是由一群爆破爱好者成立的。 和这种组织相比，尽管刺玫会的年轻会长有些过分活泼，但基本上还是一个守法、可靠的好组织。 按照官方的对外说法，刺玫会是一个以民生为本，涉及各行各业，致力于为民众解决疑难问题，在必要时也会与枫丹当局沟通合作的帮会。 如果问娜维娅的话，她会说刺玫会是一个什么人都有，什么忙都帮，在合适的时候说合适的话、开合适的枪的生意伙伴。 两种说法大约都没有错，人们可以选择自己喜欢的那个。只是选择后者的人，可能更容易成为娜维娅的朋友。 |
| 角色故事1 | 在枫丹，如果有人说自己是看戏剧长大的，就如同说自己是喝水长大的一样，普通到不值一提。 娜维娅也是如此。年幼的她曾无比钟情于舞台上演绎的故事，缠着老爹为她购买剧票，只为坐在台下，与台上的角色共同经历跌宕起伏的一幕又一幕。 但这些感受，在她开始接触刺玫会的事务后变了味道。戏剧的冲突似乎并不比谈判桌上的转折来得多；那些靠妆造表现出的伤痕，她总是能在灰河的居民身上看到。 渐渐地，她不再经常前往歌剧院，而是将时间更多地花在身边的人身上。舞台上的悲剧最抓人眼球，但娜维娅并不想让那样的悲剧在人世间上演。 因立场不同而无法在一起的情侣，要如何让他们摆脱纷争的泥沼？因事故而失去工作能力的中年人，要如何给他一个养家的渠道？ 世界上有很多这样的问题，它们不像那些支撑刺玫会运转的核心生意，即便圆满解决了也无法带来任何收益，但娜维娅还是花费了额外的力气去帮。 如果有人嫌她多事，娜维娅就会挺起胸膛反驳。 「怎么能说这些是小事情呢！」她故意用了冠冕堂皇的说辞，让对方不敢再接话，「这是在防止小问题引发大麻烦。而且，只要能让一个人免于站到歌剧院的舞台上，也算是帮了沫芒宫的忙吧？」 在这种时候，娜维娅便不会称自己是大小姐、老板或者别的什么响亮称号，只是热心市民娜维娅。 * 好感等级达到2后开启 |
| 角色故事2 | 现在以帮人解决麻烦著称的娜维娅，小时候可是最会给自己找麻烦的那个。 卡雷斯会长总是很忙，便拜托刺玫会的成员帮着照顾大小姐。但这个需要被照顾的对象却经常眨眼间便不见，留下随从四处寻觅，最后才在房檐上看到一点礼帽的边缘。等他们紧张地爬上屋顶才发现，那真的只是一顶小小的礼帽而已。 礼帽的主人或许正在秋分山野外快乐玩耍。她的好奇心是如此旺盛，哪怕没有玩伴也可以自己找到快乐。给她一片小水塘，娜维娅就能盯着它看上一天，看鸟儿在浅滩扑着翅膀洗澡，看水底的海獭浮上来仰泳，仅仅如此就能让她高兴很久。作为给她带来快乐的回礼，她会给鸟儿找谷子吃，给海獭送贝壳玩。 有时，她也会自己寻找玩伴。灰河的孩子大多没什么玩具，于是她便和他们一起捉迷藏，拖着丝绸裙摆在管道里匿形。无论输赢与否，她总能比其他小孩收获更多。她从藏身的地方出来，也掏出从角落里捡到的零件、被不知何人遗失的几枚摩拉和一个足有五成新的随身工具盒，然后收获伙伴们佩服的目光。 虽然她总是自己乱跑，但大人们似乎都对她格外宽容（老爹除外）。刺玫会的成员帮她包扎磕伤的膝盖，灰河的阿姨给她缝补扯破的衣角。娜维娅想，我竟然受到这么多人喜欢，心中又变得更加高兴起来。 后来有一次，娜维娅听见邻居的奶奶这样与其他人交谈：「…这孩子只有父亲在，也没时间陪她…她总是一个人在外面逛，看着怪可怜的…」 听到这话的娜维娅心里短暂地不快乐了一会儿。她觉得自己很幸福，父亲很爱她，周围的大人和小孩也喜欢她，那为什么会有人认为她可怜呢？ 可能是因为我表达不清，让人产生了误解，这是很不好的，娜维娅想。 于是在那之后，每当小娜维娅感到被爱着的时候，就会大声和对方说：「谢谢你喜欢我，我很开心！」 * 好感等级达到3后开启 |
| 角色故事3 | 娜维娅把枪和伞融为一体的初衷十分简单：她不想手里拿着太多东西，会影响她做别的事情。 枫丹多雨水，雨过天晴后的太阳又总是毒辣，所以出门一定要带伞。枪对刺玫会的大小姐来说也是必不可少的，没人会觉得枪在娜维娅手中只是装饰吧？ 她的枪法算是吃百家饭学来的，她的原则是只要能打中目标就算把枪管架在膨膨兽身上也无所谓。 受过训练、继承了逐影猎人枪术的克洛琳德对此连连摇头，嘴上却做出了肯定的评价：「你能如此乐观地对待战场，我很欣赏。」 娜维娅就当她是在夸自己了。她在刚长成十几岁的大姑娘（自认为）时就认识了克洛琳德，早习惯了她说话的方式。真是恰如其分的赞美！娜维娅想。 乐观的确是不可多得的心理素质，很多人即使刻意培养，也无法习惯用笑容面对生活中的困难，娜维娅却天生就有这样的能力。在她看来，世间的问题不过两种，能解决的和不能解决的。遇到可以消灭的麻烦就立即付诸行动，如果实在没有办法，就转变自己的状态去接受吧。 除了乐观以外，娜维娅觉得包容也是非常有助于改善生活质量的优点。这个优点继承自刺玫会。你看，刺玫会不仅生意范围广，就连成员也形形色色，甚至还有只不知来自何方的玳龟呢！ 据说这只玳龟是卡雷斯先生的朋友，名叫康思戈，大意为「参谋」。娜维娅也和它聊过几次。它既有耐心，又很安静，还长寿，是绝佳的倾诉对象。不过在某一天娜维娅对着它絮絮叨叨的时候，夏洛蒂路过并举起了相机，以致于很多人在看过画片后都去烦那只玳龟了。在那之后，娜维娅便很少去找它了。 「也要给其他人与康思戈先生聊天的机会。」娜维娅正色道。 * 好感等级达到4后开启 |
| 角色故事4 | 大概这世上原本就存在诸多矛盾。 比如娜维娅的父亲卡雷斯。如果刺玫会拥有了更大的号召力，很多工作会更好做，但卡雷斯却固执地拒绝了水道建成后沫芒宫想颁予他的荣誉称号。 再比如，卡雷斯从不向女儿刻意隐瞒刺玫会中的各种事务，对生意场上的技巧他知无不言，常亲自或者派人教她如何使用武器，甚至带她去一些谈判现场，似乎有意培养她成为刺玫会接班人。与此同时，对娜维娅母亲的死因他却讳莫如深，也从不向娜维娅吐露情感。有一段时间，娜维娅想不明白老爹对她到底是亲近还是疏远。 后来，娜维娅渐渐琢磨出一个理论：老爹这样对她，可能是出于保护。他让她多多学习、积累智慧，是希望女儿在未来能够自力更生，不被生活压垮。而他不说压力，不说悲伤，也不谈及克莱门汀的死亡，大约是不想让女儿难过或产生不必要的愧疚，所以哪怕自己十分怀念妻子，也从不和女儿谈心。 至于舍弃荣誉的原因，可能是因为卡雷斯认为刺玫会更多时候是在和普通市民接触，假如人们开始恭敬地称他为「卡雷斯伯爵」，便无形中制造了地位上的隔阂，刺玫会有可能因此失去众人的信任。 以上种种，只是娜维娅自己的推断。 这应该也是娜维娅的矛盾所在，她一向勇敢，在生意场外心直口快，却一直没找父亲确认过这些猜想。 ——老爹，你的那些选择是为了保护我才做的吗？你是否在相信我的同时，又小看了我处理情绪的能力呢？ 这些话，她都没有跟父亲讲过。她想，反正时间有的是，等那个老顽固不再那样封闭情感，等她自己也变得更加成熟稳重时，大家再慢慢聊也不迟吧？ 时间给了她答案，也教会了她父亲没能教给她的东西。 有些事大约就是这样，无法提前做出准备，事到临头才能现学现卖。就像迈勒斯离开后，她开始自己整理备忘录。 一开始总会有疏忽的地方吧？但没关系，她会学得很快。 * 好感等级达到5后开启 |
| 角色故事5 | 枫丹是水的国度，自古流传着许多与水有关的故事，比如天上的雨是水龙王的眼泪，陆上大湖汇聚着人类的情感… 前者人们只当是哄小孩子的童谣；而后者，虽然大多数普通人无法求证，却随着「预言」一事逐渐成了人们的情感寄托。 枫丹的灾后重建工作一直在稳步进行，同时娜维娅也发现，有越来越多的人喜欢在水边停留，尤其是白淞镇一带。 接任刺玫会会长后，娜维娅一直是个停不下来的人。但是有一次，当她路过水畔，瞥见自己在水中的倒影，她突然想要给自己一点驻足的时间，就像幼年盯着水塘的时候一样。 娜维娅蹲下身掬起一捧水。水从指缝中渐渐流失，最终只剩手心里的一点。娜维娅没有从这捧水中感受到什么，只想起被雨水冲淡的血迹，和那些海水退去后留下的衣物。 她向来喜欢注视事物光明的一面，也不愿悲伤的情绪传染身边的伙伴，以前很少哭泣。似乎她未流的泪在积攒了漫长的年份后，终于在这时找到了出口。 那些泪被风吹干，并没有落入水泽之中，但娜维娅想，它们应该不会随时间消失。 她的那点眼泪微不足道，但会同世间其他的水一样，在空气中蒸发、凝结，又变成细雨落下，在未来每个潮湿的雨季与她再见。 * 好感等级达到6后开启 |
| 恰当的时机 | 在娜维娅不用踮脚就能摸到橱柜顶层的时候，卡雷斯给了她一个笔记本。本子里是一些没有日期、没有格式，有些甚至没有标点的文字，出自她的母亲克莱门汀之手。 娜维娅感到惊喜，但随着不断地阅读，心底却生出烦闷。 这是母亲的随笔，从她与卡雷斯一同拜访露景泉写起。似乎在他们决定养育一个孩子开始，母亲就会经常想起娜维娅。当她看到金色的向阳花，便会想象孩子头发的颜色；当她看到清澈的湖水，就会想象孩子眼中的光。 她将那些期盼与祝愿也一一记下：希望我们的孩子拥有诸多美好的品质，尝试世间种种美食与冒险，收获各式各样的幸福与快乐。 这不是娜维娅第一次阅读母亲留下的记录，但却是她最开心又最生气的一次：为什么老爹到现在才把这个给她？！ 但这种气愤并没有持续多久。薄薄一本笔记很快阅读到底，结尾是非常简洁的一句话。 「虽然写的都是孩子的事情，但说到底，这些只是我自己的愿望吧。」 或许是因为血脉相连，娜维娅马上明白了这句话的意思。母亲并不希望自己的愿望成为孩子成长过程中的负担；而在娜维娅已经按照自己的意愿长大成人后，老爹才将这本笔记交予她手中。 这一天，娜维娅难得没有出门活动，在自己的房间里待了很久，也难得赞同了老爹这次的独断专行。 也许本来，母亲是想亲自将这本笔记交给长大后的她吧…在最为恰当的时机。 * 好感等级达到4后开启 |
| 神之眼 | 在许多年前的一场生日会上，娜维娅拿出了自己最喜欢的桌上游戏。 大概因为那天是代表她终于成年的日子，参与游戏的人格外多。在热闹的氛围中，除了寿星娜维娅仍是主角以外，每个人都绞尽脑汁创造了非常不适合自己的角色。 稳重的迈勒斯成了冒失粗心的委托人，邀请大家一起解决——或者不如说是承受——自己家族的古老诅咒。衣着讲究、礼貌文雅的桑尼变身满口粗话的毛贼，为此他做出巨大牺牲，脱掉了几乎一直长在他身上的浅色外套。因为路过现场而被拖入战局的西尔弗那时才刚加入刺玫会不久，于是大家为这个战战兢兢的小年轻量身定制了一位神秘又强大的术士角色。 最为致命的是，以往负责控制局势的克洛琳德这次选择了和代号为「大小姐」的知名冒险家「同流合污」，作为一名开枪百发百失的私人医生登场。总得有个人负责治疗吧，这是她给出的理由。这直接导致游戏主持人缺失，于是卡雷斯先生便遭了殃。他只好放下手中的软饮料，离开一旁的观众席（板凳）坐到众人中间（沙发）。 娜维娅对这个开局非常满意。 游戏开头意外地坎坷。在大小姐的生日会上，陌生的委托人夺门而入，因为糟糕的判定一头扎进三层蛋糕里喘不上气，差点在最初的五分钟内就自行解决了长达千年的家族诅咒。大小姐连忙让好心的医生为他进行救助。让他活下去算是在帮助我们的敌人吧，医生边说边扔骰子。 主持人面不改色，用低沉的声音忠实履行着自己的职责： 「冒雨赶来的年轻人浑身湿透，双手颤抖。 「他尽力抹掉脸和身上的奶油，却还是有些地方遗漏。 「『谢谢，谢谢你们这些好心人，愿意帮我与这邪恶的诅咒战斗！』」 游戏中段意外地好运。要想解决问题，必须先调查问题的根源。根据术士的推测，委托人的先祖因为某种原因与恶魔签订了契约。「要是点数更好就能知道原因了吧…」术士懊悔道。「所以他那傻瓜祖宗是签了高利贷合同咯，真是个违背后人的决定！」毛贼不屑一顾道。「那我们可以把它偷来毁掉吗？」大小姐随口提议道。 经验不足的主持人余生一定都在后悔自己允许了他们的行动。毛贼的运气好得离谱。 「…『大小姐』足智多谋，『怪盗』同样造诣深厚。 「谁也没成想契约就这样轻松到手，但上面的文字却难以参透…」 游戏结尾意外地圆满。多谢主持人，他足够努力且足够善良（也足够生疏），终于，大小姐拖着状态各异的队友们见到了远古的恶魔。战斗轮一如既往地混乱，术士永远第一个失去理智，就像医生的子弹一颗也没有打中。眼看大家的生命值都要见底，冒险家大小姐只好冒险行事。她耗费了一次行动移动到恶魔身边，艰难扛下了一轮正面攻击，然后破罐破摔地对医生说：「你不如拿枪打我好了！」 还没等主持人说话，医生的骰子就扔了出去。卡雷斯默默计算着点数，深深呼吸了三次。 「…恶魔的弱点被子弹洞穿，巨大的身体坠入深渊。 「它要回到黑暗中沉睡，要将那荒谬的诅咒带走。 「欢呼，欢呼吧！为了冒险家的勇敢，也为那厄运缠身的战友！」 不知是为了配合会长的说辞还是情不自禁，大家都在欢呼。在一片喧闹声中，只有开始动手整理道具的卡雷斯先生在发愣。他从放骰子的盒子中拿出了一颗金黄的宝石：「娜维娅…我想这是你的。」 在场的人不少，但这颗神之眼的确属于娜维娅。因为她稍一闪念，一柄岩元素的巨刃就将生日蛋糕一切为二…连带桌子一起。 等到深夜，生日会现场和她的兴奋劲儿均已收拾妥当，娜维娅平躺在床上，却怎么也回忆不起获得神之眼时自己正在想些什么。是在感叹历经千辛万苦的游戏终于得到胜利，还是在许愿今后的每个生日都能有亲朋好友陪伴？ 如果是前者，似乎侧面说明想迎来圆满的结局必先遭遇重重困境…所以，还是后一个吧。 娜维娅在半梦半醒间这么想着，手握神之眼慢慢睡着。 * 好感等级达到6后开启 |
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I can’t tell if 99% of this is due to people’s fear of her ending up like Dehya, Or the idea that for some reason the playerbase sprouted this idea that navia would singlehandedly save geo as an element.
From my point of view, Nobody here is acting much better than the other. Navia looks relatively fine. she’s nothing spectacular but I also don’t see how she’s dehya tier either.
if anyone wants to explain what the issue is that would be helpful.
I think the issue is that some people think that if a character is not performing as well the top dps, supports or whatever, then they are not a character worth pulling for. They chalk it up to the character being “mid”. I think the flaw in this reasoning is that not every character can or will be meta defining or even on par with characters that are. The way I see it is that if every character was as strong as or stronger than a previous character, then people would complain about powercreep or even repetitive gameplay. If they aren’t, then some people don’t see any value in pulling for the character and want Mhy to buff them, hence the people that say people let mhy get away with mid characters. I understand the frustration with one of your favorite characters being not as strong as you would like, looking at you Dehya, but there will always be more characters to like and play. It’s not the end of the world if they aren’t the best character in the game.
I also think that the vast majority of players don’t care if Navia is doing top tier damage or not. She is functionally sound and will do decent damage. I think that is good enough. At least she is not as underperforming as Dehya is, and even she got better with Furina. Lastt thing I have to say is that there is some merit in characters that try new ways of dealing damage or buffs or heals/shields. Is Ayato a good character? yes. Is Ayato played a lot? I would say no. Time will tell if this applies Navia as well.
Spot on.
It’s hard to satisfy everyone, it’s truly a spiral of mockery comment sections in every single leaked character page.
You’re spitting facts here my friend.
I think it is quite telling that none of the people screaming doom and gloom have bothered to respond. Not one person, troll or not, has tried to refute my arguments. I can only assume that either these people agree with me deep down or know that their arguments don’t hold any water when talking about the current state of the game or community. I would truly like to know what a “mid” character even is in this game considering any character 4* or 5*, from Amber and Dehya to Ayaka or Neuvillette, can clear the abyss with 36*. What more can people reasonably expect when that content is the pinnacle of genshin difficulty? Why does even character need to be as strong as the strongest character. I remember when Ganyu was the strongest dps and nobody thought they would make a dps as strong as her. Now she hardly breaks the top 5. Does that make her mid now?
Ayaka isn’t really OP. You guys are still living in 2.x lmao
She may not be op like Neuvillette is but she is one of the best dps currently and one of most widely played I reckon. And sure Alhaitham is strong in his own right too, just to prove I’m not stuck in 2.x lol. I just don’t personally play him. The point was asking why asking people make such an uproar about a character that might not be quite as strong as the top dps. Will Navia clear the abyss? yes. Will she be fun to play? that’s for you to decide. And for those that might be wondering, I do own a c4 Dehya. I’m still searching for good artifacts for her and I do plan on building Furina and testing them out together. I just play who I like to play and how I like to play them. It doesn’t bother me if it takes them 10 sec longer to clear their side of the abyss.
I’m honestly rather relieved to see sane individuals here. i was getting rather concerned they didn’t exist…
Either way, I think having a geo unit that actually works with the reaction specific to their element is ultimately a good thing. Sure it doesn’t entirely fix crystalize’s problem. but it does give it an actual use. (unless you wanna count gorou)
I’m really curious if navia hyperbloom might be a possibility, Not because it’s the most viable or optimal team to build, but because it sounds rather fun to me.
Personally what I think would be cool would be for some kind of explosion or pulse effect to added to crystallize. Since geo is inert, maybe the pulse damage does geo damage and whatever element is absorbed. and maybe if the shield breaks, it explodes for more damage. I know that would functionally similar to anemo, but that would actually create some synergies with anemo. just think you have geo with Archaic Petra so you swirl an element for the res. shred and then crystallize it for the damage bonus. and it’s keeps applying the element like anemo will which could lead to more consistent reactions. I don’t know about everyone else, but that sounds kinda fun to me.
I keep stating my opinion but the shitty moderators here keep deleting my comments yet allow the low effort trolls to make comments. The hypocrisy here is laughable. That’s what happens when you have no life asides from managing a shitty site. Anyways, I’m going to state my reason again before this gets deleted. It’s just a vocal minority of the community that operates on a single braincell. They can’t even make their own judgements and parrot the words of some “TC”
I keep stating my opinion but the shitty moderator here keep deleting my comments yet allow the low effort trolls to make comments. The hypocrisy here is laughable. That’s what happens when you have no life asides from managing a shitty site. Anyways, I’m going to state my reason again before this gets deleted. It’s just a vocal minority of the community that operates on a single braincell. They can’t even make their own judgements and parrot the words of some “TC”
Simps deserve no more than mid since they are happy as long as they get to play their thing. “Game is eezi, we need diversity” – they would say, the very definition of copium. mihoyo have adopted good strategy now. make lol! and dudes broken who might have had less sales and give the simps good story, flashy looks instead with mediocre kit & dmg. Those simps would throw their everything anyway, why give them dmg when mihoyo can sell the lol! and dudes again for the numbers
Exactly my take on this now. Until these idiots stop accepting this crap, they deserve everything they get. ‘Game iz eezee’ ‘muh unit diversity’ criers all crutch one of the meta to carry their mid tier characters through the eezee world and then act like this is both a good thing for the game and that their character is better than they actually are. I wonder, when will we get a dedicated Pyro buffer? (Who will need Bennett anyway) Or when will we get another good off-field Pyro? (Who won’t have Xianglings dmg and worse ICD’s.) They want unit diversity, until it comes into contest with the meta and then they cry about power-creep.
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If male char superiority, so why did they made Rizzly so low compared to Neuvillette ?
good point. since neuvillete is a lady who is simped by all he should have been under dude wriothesley, damn i’m proven wrong right away
What are you talking about ? I talk about all male chars not being this superior…
Neuvillette has an Archon treatment but at his DPS level instead of support capacity (for usual Archons). They made him too strong imo.
Lyney and Rizzly are strong but not gamebreaking. So argument like “niah niah waifu mid and men OP because of simps” is dumb.
Excuse me, you really need to seek help.
exactly, I am seeking help for everyone🤣 but mihoyo aint helping😂 as long as there are these many simps ready to gobble up any trash food that has their wifu’s face drawn on it.
where did you get your’s last time?
I didn’t realize Neuvillette was a female… lmao..
What are you talking about ? I talk about all male chars not being this superior…
Because Neuv is the hydro dragon? And why you compare a male with another male? TCers say given the same team, Wrio would have better numbers than the current Navia
1. …also gotta sell good
2. in some places on earth you can just identify as anything 😂 who knows about Fontaine and neuvillete/ they found their Fontaine waifu that they’re looking for, don’t offend.
3. 🤝🤝🤝
I compared two male chars because some says Male Supremacy. Are some others male chars don’t get the same treatment as other male chars. There is no point to compare the power in a gender level. There is strong women (like HuTao, Ayaka, Yelan) and strong men (like AlHaitham, Neuvillette, Kazuha). That’s all.
I don’t talk about Archons because Archons are meant to be great anyway.
I’m not convinced. Sovereigns was only mentionned before and the only one we met (Apoop) isn’t even playable. If “Hydro Dragon” justifies the power, why “Coffin seller” is this strong ? Or “Feeble Scholar” ?
If “Hydro Dragon” justifies the power, so we will wait all others elemental Sovereign and wait for them to solo abyss with shitton of DPS in their element. Why Meta slave will pull other characters ? Mihoyo would kill themselves. We already are waiting for the Archon every new country.
Given the same team => Rizzly with a Geo char ? =O Or slapping all the best support (Furina/Bennett) to get the highest dmg per screenshot ? (real question)
Here have a trophy.
People who said male superiority are either girls, kids or gays.
they dislikes their opposing gender, and will lead to human extinction.
Imagine chasing dmg numbers in genshin lol. You forgot its just a waifu collector.
Exactly that’s the very thing a simp says.
Game is eezi
sure thing. we will be ok with characters that can only walk and run. even more diversity. Bennett xiangling xinqu can carry any dead weight. if it can be carried we can say it is not bad😔
What is the point in evaluating a character solo when you are meant to have them on a team? Moreover, every top tier dps, minus Neuvi and maybe one or two others, aren’t doing anything without good supports. Is Hu Tao doing anything without XQ? Is Ayaka doing much without Shenhe? Is Itto doing much without Gorou? The point is that practically every dps is pretty mid without good supports behind them. Even Xiangling isn’t doing impressive damage without a good Hydro applier. And don’t even get me started about Kazuha and Furina. My point is that there aren’t very many dps’s that are good without supports and Navia is no different. Supports make every character better than they actually are. It’s how the game works.
Despite saying no Toxicity, their words bear no weight, and only exists to satisfy their desire
One can assume he’s only trolling the comments section in a more creative ways (a different approach from Floptaine and Fontaine Powercreep)
nobody mid, not even dehya or amber or… alright? because everyone can be carried in a team with some op supports and subdps.
facts.
That’s the point. Every character is carried by supports, op or otherwise. Raiden ain’t hitting 500k damage without Bennet and c6 sara. Ayaka ain’t hitting anything without an anemo and hydro to freeze. Ayato and Yoimiya aren’t hitting nearly as hard without a NA buffer and Vapes. Hell even Furina is a lot less useful without a party healer like Jean or Barbara. Does that make them bad characters when none of these characters can 36* abyss solo? Yes every dps is pretty mid if you don’t factor in the supports that buff them to the levels of success that they enjoy. Using op supports is just a natural part of the game and to say otherwise is just ignorant and foolish. I will say that the variety of supports is pretty lacking and I would like to see other options that bennet, XL, XQ, and Kazuha. Furina is an interesting addition to the mix and I would like to see more. Any way you slice it, supports tend to be 4* characters and inevitably get compared to Bennet and the like. I think we need more 5* supports like Kazuha and Furina and Zhongli. There are over 20 5* characters that can function as a main dps in your team. There certainly aren’t 20 5* supports to choose from.
LISTEN TO ME I AM TRYING TO HELP YOU, do not wait for her new set,
go ahead and start farming Archaic Petra RIGHT NOW! Crystallize shields are
paper thin, soon as the shield breaks the buffs is over on her new set.
at least with Archaic Petra you are guaranteed a 10s buff no matter if it breaks or not.
don’t forget about me because i help you
Archaic petra is probably one of the most underrated sets, pple should be farming for.
Given Navia’s kit to generate a lot of crystalize shards and also having an effective way to collect shards using her gunbrella.
Her teams will most certainly have at least 1 type of elemental sub-dps. This will definitely provide a powerful utility to her teams.
Of course, the set is less useful if you’re already running an archaic petra Zhongli with her.
Thus, the question on who benefits most from the new set, Nighttime whispers. The only chara who really needs it is Ninguang, so she could have reasonable dmg to compensate her poor base atk.
You guys cant really read descriptions or just trolling? lmao. Archaic petra does NOT buff GEO dmg, its boosting OTHER elements by 30%
Genshit, you either lack experience or don’t understand the value of support buffs. Most double geo comps are running other elements hydro/pyro/electro/Cryo. Only mono-geo comps are running husk to boost personal dmg (Albedo/Gorou/Itto). This leaves Zhongli/Ninguang/Yunjin to run Archaic petra. Zhongli himself might be more suited to running TOM. Thus, this set has been slept on because of limited Geo chara. Navia seems to pair with this set pretty well.
Yunjin wants husk for her buff… Not even going to both with Ningguang lmao. Why take a low tier GEO when I can just slot Bennett or Kaz into those teams for better buffs and a lot more versatility? See the problem yet?
You’re gonna run Benny-Kazuha on every single team? I guess people have preferences. Personally not a fan of circle impact.
Hey Ass laugher, read the KQM notes on Yunjin.
Providing a large Elemental DMG Bonus% for your team makes this set have high potential for some teams (higher than Husk in all team comps). Performing Yun Jin’s Skill -> Burst combo allows her to pick up the Crystallized shard semi-consistently:
Crystallizing the correct Elemental Shard may be challenging in certain rotations, especially in reaction teams.
Sometimes Yun Jin may not collect the Shard immediately. Dashing to collect a Shard can be difficult depending on enemy size and other factors, which costs field time and may result in either a DPS loss from the extra time spent or a DPS loss from just not being able to pick up the Shard at all.
Once you acknowledge these caveats and can account for them when using Archaic Petra, you will see high returns in team comps that can utilize the buff.
REAL TRUTH => Problem is that Husk is universal while Archaic Petra is sometimes harder to use.
Let’s talk about NA users.
Yoimiya : It does great work in mono pyro/hyper team (Kazuha/Yunyun/Bennett) but most of the time, she is played in vape teams and Crystallizing pyro become harder. Ennemies will be marked by hydro aura most of the time, maybe EQ with Bennett can clean tho aura fast enough. But Furina non stop hydro app, Yelan 2U or XQ orbitals will make it more challenging
Rizzly : In Freeze teams, it varies depending on the team comp.
You usually start with hydro (XQ, Yelan or Furina because longer uptime on their aptitudes) and depending on you healer, Jean doesn’t help and Mika doesn’t apply enough cryo for Yunjin to crystallize Cryo.
Best option are Charlotte who can do the trick thanks to her frontload app, or starting with a NA with Rizzly then Q with Kazuha before using Hydro unit then coming back to E between Yunjin and Rizzly.
In Melt/Burn Melt teams, crystallizing Cryo will be a challenge.
Noelle/Ningguang/Physical Zhongli : They doesn’t benefit AP lol.
Ayato : The one who benefit it the most thanks to his burst. When Ayato is played with Yunjin, it’s most of the time hyper team with Bennett and Kazuha so hydro aura is easy to crystallize.
AP is tempting but since I play Yunjin in various teams, I personally prefer Husk for flexibility. =)
My Yunjin is running husk, but I have enough sets of AP to swap around. In fact, many old players have them since the time of Liyue. The main point isn’t to nitpick about which set to use on Yunjin, but rather the use of Archaic petra in general. Currently only Zhongli/Ninguang/Yunjin can utilise the set and potentially Navia. I’m supporting the OP stance on having AP. Not strictly farming for it, but recycling those artifacts using the strongbox.
if someone is planning to run Navia as main dps, not a support for other element’s dps, then Archaic petra is useless, unless for some sub dps boosting. But this set is not better for Navia than the bis one
Navia is designed to be a sub-dps and her kit is contrarian to Itto/Noelle, which require long field time. She can run as a main dps in high rotation quick swap teams as a driver, but in teams with a dedicated main dps, there are much better options.
AHEMM.. I mean rise of the double GEO.
you’ll make poor ppl start to farm for useless set with your trolling
You realise the effect of the new set lingers for a moment when you lose the shields right?
Or i can just use Marachaussee and Furina. 1/2 of her dmg comes from normal / charge attack after all so it’s not that big of a problem to lose 50% geo on the new one while gaining 36% crit which makes her skill 100% crit all the time with the new Claymore. The diff is not that huge anyway, prob 1-3%, but you can have that covered with good subtat on Marachaussee.
You saved my life. How could i ever repay
How about a treating me to starbucks?
I understand your point but personally I won’t.
AP is to boost the teammates or I want Navia to be boosted by the teammates and be the main DMG dealer.
Plus, the new set as a 1s duration after loosing the crystalize shield. When you hold E then release, or press E just after picking a crystal, you can’t miss the 4p effect even if the shield break instantly.
Plus, just Navia herself (Burst + skill + NAs), you make a bunch of crystal so you have at the very least 6-7s duration of the 4p effect, then you add the shards created by other mates and if fact, you are pretty fine.
What could be fun is a full EM Geo char who will create better crystals (with passive that boost crystal shielding potential x2 or more). With a good ICD on an offfield skill. So we can use TotM too.
It can situationaly work, especially with same element shield as the opponents. Zajef did Ninienne with full EM Ningguang and he took absolutely no dmg. I tested this challenge with Full EM Noelle, so with Yunjin + Gorou + Bennett, I could still do dmg while being invincible just thanks to crystallize shields.
Doesn’t work with Vivianne tho, Vivianne hits too hard with her melee attack.
Totally agree, in the end, this is the preference on how pple wish to use Navia. She is flexible enough to be both a main-dps and a sub-dps in many teams.
For example, if you’re running her with Neuvillette, as a side-grade to Zhongli, AP will definitely edge out better.
Otherwise, as a main-dps, she can go for the new set Nighttime whispers to boost her personal dmg further.
Regarding EM Crystalize Geo (used by Zajef), it can be comfy/fun option. But the trade off is lower team dmg, and a lot of pple here disagree with anything that is non-meta.
this is like goin scara full em, a waste
pick any 4* geo and go AP instead of Navia and save your primos
Interesting but I think AP has it’s caveats which makes the newer sets preferable
Somebody posted this, so I’ll share on the main post.
Now for the real information peeps are looking out for (according to leaks):
1) Navia generates 4 particles per E skill and her skill has 2 charges. Thus, this brings her close to a C1 Yelan’s snappy playstyle of EEQ.
2) According to the above information (2 skills of 4 particles), this means her ER requirements is 160% in a solo Geo comp.
3) She is Independent to run without another GEO! But only with her C2 constellation or 100% uptime on her burst.
4) Atk scaling -> Not clearly stated, but a known leaker displayed 3k Atk power in the stats.
5) Confirmed that her burst fires 16 Airstrikes! 17 including the initial blast.
I would not be wondered if they throw her on the standard banner sometime after the limited ends. Although I think that every time there is a fontaine character because they all belong to floptaine. Geo, claymore, fontaine this time…sigh…she most likely wouldn’t even be on par with other flops. Her power level is pretty much the same as the standard characters, arguably inferior to some. there are no geo standard character as of now and still no fontaine standard character. So she seems like a good contender.
EZ skip yet again. Just hold on to your primogems until floptaine comes to an end.
//it was meant to be an independent thread. wth
Good luck pulling when Natlan comes, Mr. floptaine.
fun fact: there are multiple floptaines
so, thanks on behalf of all of us, I’m sure we’ll get good luck, if Natlan isn’t another flop that is, just like Midnazuma and ZzZumeru were, although we really don’t need that much luck since there’s too many patches with easy skips, personally I got too many primos to spend on anyone lmfao
If the whole game is a flop since Inazuma, you sure are rich in primogems =3 How much do you have rn ? =3 Can you share a bit with poeple who are actually enjoying the game ? =3
If several other Floptaine dudes are as rich as you, your clan will make people happy =3
some enjoy game, some don’t then there are legends who barely plays the thing but goes through all comments in random wiki site instead and put their nose in everything thinking they are saving humanity🤢. or i might be wrong, they could have so much free time at hand that they can play the game also after their free vigilant social services😔
The floptaine guy is so easily triggered lmao. Just let them feel special mate
funny how you say “your clan” as if we were organized, but no, we don’t need to, even if the first one didn’t came back or all of us left, there will always be someone else to take the spot
you might kill the man, but you can’t kill the idea
Floptaine dudes are saving primos to make a killing later with potential buyers.
See you in Natlan mr. floptaine
complaint complaint
After the buffs to her signature artifact set Nighttime Whispers and and to her Elemental Skill it seems to me that Navia will easily be the 2nd strongest Geo character in the game (only behind the Geo Archon himself).
Now I can’t conclusively say that Navia is better than Itto strictly as Geo Main DPS. However I can say that the biggest thing she has over Itto is better team flexibility (Itto practically requires both Gorou and Albedo to be viable) while Navia can use a variety of teammates on her teams. Navia can also be used as a Sub-DPS with Archaic Petra (although with the exception of Neuvillette I think most other on-fielders would prefer another character to fill that role).
The only thing that is really holding back Navia is her Geo element. Any other element and she probably would be one of the best main DPS characters in the game.
All Hoyoverse needs to do is have a Geo-centric abyss and then pple will start regretting not building Geo chara. It had happened once in Inazuma and a real torture to some.
What is geo centric abyss???!!! I see NOTHING in tyvat against which geo has advantage over others. do you mean inazuman rock shielded mitachurl/lawachurl???!! those thing will make pple regret????!!!!!!!
Well, there was a Golden Wolflord in abyss. I think this boss is the only one against which geo has advantage. It’s hard to break Rifthound skulls without Geo, but not impossible ofc
Don’t talk about it.. That enormous giant flying wolf was a traumatic nightmare!
Not just do you need Geo, there’s the stupid corrosion to top it off.
how can it force people to build geo units lmfao!!?? it at most forces to bring a geo bot could be built/unbuilt. I guess still nothing there to make one regret not building geo
I forced it once with Yoi+XQ+Fischl but I can tell it’s not funny, I needed XQ to get max particles twice (Sac Sword) for him to be able to burst on the ground phase.
Yunjin was my best friend <3
And then came Nilou <3
itto don’t needs no one to be op ur itto probably useless AF.
A lot of people were so sure that she was going to be an hp and em scaler that would fix geo and that the powersaw claymore was gonna be for her.
They’ve all been real quiet since her leaks dropped.
Oh but don’t worry, because surely the Chev Ruse is a support for Clorinde because obviously she is.
I’m sure many more thought she was going to be a DEF scaler.
The best are the people who expect her to be the savior for geo lol
At this rate she’s probably just a geo Diluc kekw
Honestly, if Hoyo doesnt try to make Geo characters a meta ones, there’s obviously a reason. Most likely they are adding a character, that will buff Geo characters, this is why they dont want to make Navia too strong, so she doesn’t get buffed way too much. Same goes to Itto. And it also explains why they are trying not to add any geo characters rn. Also, it may be not a character what will buff Geo, but a whole element, that will have a reactions with Geo. There’s not just 7 elements, there’s lots more. They are definitely adding a Time element or smth like that
Now this is coping at a dangerous level. People’ve been saying those words for years whenever there’s an upcoming geo unit that “They’ll release a buff unit that makes geo great again SOON”. But all we have is a 4-star dog boy and geo is still mediocre.
What they want is a geo Bennett, especially with Furina needing a healer. That’s basically what they are saying and they are sniffing something serious if they think that is ever going to happen.
Khaenri’ah Quantum or Imaginary element?
this!! I see a lot of people crying for waifu but for me it’s not about the waifu.
For me it is a question that GEO does not have a fucking high level DPS, the fuckng wanderer C2 is better than itto C6 for continuous speed run just because he has faruzan C6, I have itto C6, not to mention the fuckng neuvilette a HIDRO DPS the element that most needed a high level DPS because it was such an abandoned element!! poor hydro!!
It’s sad yesterday I saw the TGS calculations and it turns out that the best navia comp calculated in C0 is with neuvilette, she being sub dps and neuvilette transporting her ass.
Man, I can’t take this shit anymore.
I see mihoyo bootlickers are still around lol. Guess you guys are not learning anything from Dehya huh. Now that mihoyo have learned how easy it was to get away with zero effort because you dumbass simps, I can see mihoyo going forward can just put the best kits and numbers to the male characters so they can sell, but not for the waifus because you simps would immediately throw away your hard earned primos thanks to your neuron activation just from barely visible bobs and thighs and some tearjerking background story and immediately would go “yass my queen I’ll get her c6 becoz SHE DESERVES EVERYTHING fuk meta slaves ez game btw” while also slap archons and Bennett and Xingqui on her team to make it decent lmao. I can see Clorinde, pelican mom, and Arlechino will be mid but mihoyo know it will be fine because you simps are gonna pull them anyway lol.
Imagine being so bad at Genshin you can’t even fathom getting decent damage without broken units or constellations. Game is literally designed for casuals, if you struggle to clear without a crutch, it’s on you.
if you okay with Navia being mid then you just proved his point. Hoyoverse will keep cooking female characters with mild kits, while the male characters will get all the goods so they can sell.
I hate to say this but I’m afraid he predicted correctly. Currently the leak for Cloud Retainer is not good. :/
hah see what I mean? lmao. Chlorinde and Arlechino will also be mid, best is probably at Diluc level lol. congratulations simps you did this to yourself lol.
Nah, I just don’t trust the opinion of a guy who looks at the roster of female characters and seriously thinks they’re unworkable compared to the male characters. It’s like Hoyoverse released Neuvillette and suddenly people lost their minds thinking the female units are getting shafted. (Cyno, Scara, Lyney, and Wriosthley are hardly breaking the meta, compared to Nahida and Furina, which doesn’t matter I guess)
I’ll give him that Dehya’s kit was botched, but nothing we know about the sales proved that waifu baiting for cons or weapon worked in Hoyoverse’s favor. (Do people seriously think Dehya’s banner sold well comparatively? Where are people getting that idea?) It all just reeks of paranoia and poor game understanding. Navia’s kit might end up mid but I’ll see it myself rather than listen to some schizo consipiracy theorist.
There is no reliable data set but there are approximations according to sensortower.
In the month of Dehya’s banner for mobile, Mihoyo earned 48m.
For strict comparisons, Neuvilette scored 39m and the rest of Fontaine’s male characters scored less than 35m.
Shock, horror. To the surprise of absolutely no-one, the new Anemo waifu isn’t going to be as strong as Kazuha. Why are people still surprised? They made him so laughably OP because no-one would ever remember he existed beyond ruining every quest he’s part of. (Where are the anti power-creepers in regards to him hmm?)
You are not wrong, the worst thing is that it ended up affecting the geo and after 2 years, now geo wanters we have to wait who knows how long for geo T0 dps.
In fact, the best DPS in the game were Raiden ayaka hutao, and recently Nuveliette was added.
The best dps subs in the game to date Nahida Raiden Yelan Xiangling and Xq, the best supports Bennett zhongli kokomi nahida kazuha furina.
You must really be a dumbass simp(leton) who thinks it has everything figured out but hasn’t understood anything. go and get your parents to buy you a McDonald’s sandwich, it’s better
Hutao? No way. She is even weaker than bennett as a DPS lol
When you say raiden don’t forget the c2. It seems odd when you put an A tiered dps together with the SSS tiered one’s otherwice
why you say something we already know lmao. Seems english is not your strong suit so let me make it simple for you. Your. future. waifus. will. ALWAYS. be. MID. because. you. people. keep. defending. mihoyo.
Ayaka is massively overrated and the others need constellations to actually compete with other teams. Also, there’s other good DPS options. The 2.x era wad over ages ago
I agree. Those three units are hilariously overrated.
This guy is probably griefing that he got Dehya on the limited banner.
mad cuz bad lol
You are not totally wrong😅😅😅
funny you say this when the geo archon scales differently from his element and the anemo archon got usage powercrept by another anemo male.
so far, all the female archons are just better than the male archons.
so if Hoyo could get away with selling mid waifus, then wtf is with the unbalanced ratio of waifus to males in the archon category? ya think the last 2 archons gonna be HI3rd expys thus we just have 2 to 5 on a ratio of male to female archons?
I dont think it’s as clear as that. the experimental characters, basically playing into future impact, are carried by the weight of their relevance in story. Yae played a main role in Inazuman archon quests, Dehya played a big role in the Sumeru archon quests, and Clorinde did as well. they pretty much all hold the same weight on their influence on the archon quests.
And I don’t consider Navia mid. Navia is pretty fine. she’s basically on the same level as Scaramouche, except she doesn’t collapse on getting hit by a rock or potion. and her power level would be justified on Hoyo’s end if we get another geo support. you know what geo is really missing right now? an off field healer. It can’t catch a ride on the trend Furina had set, except Noelle is the only geo to receive a boon from Furina. we also have 2 more artifact sets left after 4.3’s, so I figure we may get a geo set morr relevant to crystallize than 4.3’s, like how Flowers of Paradise were more catered toward hyoerbloom and burgeon.
1.mihoyo must make archons strong because they cannot afford another Zhongli incident. 2.unbalanced waifus to males because WAIFUS ARE EASIER TO SELL REGARDLESS OF THEIR KITS thanks to you simps lol. 3.EXACTLY MY POINT BRO mihoyo tailormade waifus stories to be so good so they can sell those waifus with mid kits because again the simps be like “SHE DESERVES EVERYTHING UWU” lmao another ez money for mihoyo. 4.Scara is an old relic of the past before Dehya banner. now that mihoyo realized they can get away selling waifus with mid kits, nothing will hold them back. All futures waifus will be Diluc level guaranteed.
Stop spreading misinformation ffs
Half of the things you just said are wrong
Is spreading misinformation and lies all you can do
Cool story. This doesn’t really contribute anything
Navia will bring out the gunlance of monster hunter series and BANG!
Idk personally I always thought it looked like wyvern ammo but I’m not complaining either way.
yep