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1. …But ganyu is still good

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   • just not great

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     • Plenty great, what are you smoking?

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2. got the most toxic fanbase

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   • to be fair raiden’s fanbase is worse
     both the braindeds from twitter and the meta players

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     • Agree. If you fail to say her real name “Ei”, you’ll be crucified and burnt at a stake by her fanbase.

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   • Not even close, hater

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3. Ganyu is still the apex absolute bestest dps in the game it is just a fact. It is also a fact nothing will change it because mihoyo has realized they cant just bring out anymore dps like ganyu which will ridicule the game. aint gonna argue with noobs simps on copium.

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   • “Ganyu Mains Since The Beginning”

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4. Fun fact about Ganyu: she’s currently taking care of Yaoyao, a child from Liyue harbor. However, Yaoyao seems to be more of an assistant to Ganyu, and has left some notes at Wangshu Inn, discussing Ganyu’s needs.

   Yaoyao writes things like “Can the owner please refrain from putting chilis in Ganyu’s food? She often stays up late and has a sensitive stomach, which chilis do absolutely no favors for.”

   The owner later teases Yaoyao, saying that GANYU is the one that needs to be taken care of, not Yaoyao. So maybe we’ll get Ganyu In a quest involving Yaoyao?! I wonder if Ganyu and Yaoyao have a mother-daughter relationship

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5. Ganyu is still very pretty and very strong. I don’t know what more y’all need from her.

   Plus, I’d say she’s a relatively old unit, so the fact she’s still up there is impressive, you can’t lie.

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6. I’m not one of them but I feel bad for the people who got Ganyu back in 1.2, when she was ridiculed as “Cryo Amber” by trolls. Now too many newbs have rerolled for Ganyu to get the best cryo dps and the essential part of a freeze team, one of the two meta teams in Genshin (the other meta team has Raiden).

   Original Ganyu owners since 1.2 should get a unique costume or an Amos bow “Special True Ganyu Main Edition” to distinguish them from fake Ganyu mains.

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   • Ridiculous and full of petty salt. Ganyu is great in her own right. She doesn’t need “special Edition” item to shine. You don’t represent actual Ganyu Mains (new or old). True Ganyu mains also know there are more than two meta teams in Genshin. But you do you.

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     • there are other meta teams…yeah…but still melt ganyu is way better dps wise to freeze ayaka…and evryone knows ayaka is best at her freeze team

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       • Source: Trust me bro?

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         • source…speedruns on youtube…but i bet you dont wanna see them cause you are biased…watch some of the recent abyss speedruns

         • Speedrun on YouTube. That hit so hard. You had me dying of laugh LMFAO

         • Ayaka main coping so hard.

         • @LOL WHAT?…Nah…you died when you saw the speedruns…hahahaha

       • Like I said, you do you. It doesn’t change the fact that Ganyu isn’t the only meta unit regardless of whether you say she’s “better” than an another character. That wasn’t the point I was trying to make.

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       • Come on dude, I can use Venti, Bennett & Ganyu to beat the abyss, but that doesn’t mean melt Ganyu is my first choice. You can’t just use other people’s speedrun clip to support your theory(and it’s very hard to achieve) , you have to realize that most people doesn’t have C6R5.

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   • Ganyu is the best cyro dps and one of the two meta team beside raiden’s???I swear to god I’m not joking bro. Omg please… I’m not joking bro like she’s the best bro wdym ???

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     • Let him cope

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     • the fastest speedruns in recent abysses are basicaly raiden hypercarry or melt ganyu…so your the one whose coping…like goddamn just go and watch the fucking speedruns yourself and stop shitting in comment section here because no one at the end gonna pull on a character over your comments

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       • Source : i made it up?

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         • source…aliss runs in abyss 12

         • Dude probably watched Aliss videos and thinking all Ganyu mains can do the same ?

         • Of course it’s Aliss. It is like 0.00000001% chance you can do the same even if you have C6 R5 Ganyu. Aliss is just different breed. He got skills that most of players barely has. He is fast and very good at aiming. He is very skilled on what he do not only with melt Ganyu but other teams too. I have no idea why someone is using his footage to make a conclusion melt Ganyu is just that good like his melt Ganyu is something that anyone’s can play

         • @Sweet Paradise…yeah with a bit more money to make my weapon r5 i can do what aliss is doing…because im good at playing…now go and cry…hahahaha

       • Sure dude! A whale with C6+R5 characters recording a pure showcase video on YouTube with like a 100 trials for entertainment purpose is surely the power of average melt Ganyu indeed.
         Melt ganyu so strong, so powercrept baby. Yes sir

         Meanwhile what therychafters actually says about melt ganyu :
         https://i.postimg.cc/0yVnr7fP/IMG-20220207-184926.jpg

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         • This one too ??
           https://youtu.be/x9r0LeBUqSo

         • the average melt ganyu is my alt account witch is completely f2p doing 55 k in noramal and 107 in bloom melt paired with c0 diona and c5 bennet and xiangling…also my ganyu weapon is r3 hamayumi…stats…50 crit rat and 190 crit dmg with 140…in a rotaion she can do 5 charged shot witch is 5x162k equal to 810k in a 15 second duration of benny and xiangling ult time…imo this f2p is beyond cracked specialy with the fact that her 4 star weapon isnt at r5…ohhhh…and by the way i have her c6r1 on my main….if you you cant afford to c6 a character thats not my problem

         • Also take into account that a freeze teams wether be ganyu or ayaka is absoulutely useless against bosses…thats why people either go nuke hypercarry raiden or melt ganyu or vape hutao or vape yoimiya or the goddamn nuke eula…because these are boss killers…freeze is useless against bosses

         • It is very impossible to do 5CA on a single rotation without running out of buff and the fact you are using diona as your shielder make it even more suspicious. Not to mention Ganyu slow CA and many other things that just doesn’t make any sense

         • Sweet Paradise…Then go and try it for yourself because you don’t know about her ca obviously and the fact that i wasted my time explaining her kit to you turn out to be a waste of time…and just for your own knowledge…her ca take almost 2.2 seconds….but you must be precise to do it on time to get 5 ca on time…my diona is also c6 which gives me 200 em….that’s why i use her…and yeah…her shield is enough if you build her hp to be high

         • You’re right. Everyone should definitely try out your guide so they can finally knows how terrible it was

         • If anything, that just shows you shouldn’t listen to Ayzel about Ganyu. The only Meltyu variation that’s anywhere close to being that low is the definitively worst one, using Kazuha as the pyro applicator. The other pyro applicators, Xiangling, Nahida, and Jean hover around 45k-50k dps (although Jean gets there by running Diona as a shielder, but gets away with her shorter shield duration with a much shorter CAing phase)

           In fact, considering similar past sussy takes he’s had (like Hu Tao only getting 5 CAs per rotation), it’s probably best practice to not listen to Ayzel about anything

   • cringe mf

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   • It has been 2 years but ganyu mains still can’t move on from 1.2 where is ganyu being praised alot during that time ?

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   • All big and reliable TCs such as Zajef, Tenten, and Ayzel had pointed out Ganyu is now getting balanced and mostly overrated by her stans.
     why is Ganyu getting balanced?
     https://youtu.be/fiToH0XSozc ( is Ganyu still good in 3.0? ) by KQM’s Zajef
     why Ganyu is overrated?
     https://youtu.be/8znvpBT5kV4 ( top 5 most overrated characters by genshin community) by Tenten

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     • She still as strong as usual but rather not the best option (anymore) because we have alot of new characters who are similar or uses the same team but can do it (perform) better than her.

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       • Speaking about Ganyu vs Ayaka (since many commenters on this page likely your’s too). I think genshin players in general has acknowledged that Ayaka is stronger and better in term of DPS. So It’s pointless if you still using that comparison in order to troll people that coming to this page

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         • All pro Genshin players and serious theorycrafters agree that Ganyu is the strongest cryo dps and one of the two meta dps (the other is Raiden).

         • I have not seen any of them saying that but okay. You do you. Have a nice day

         • First of all… We dont need theory when we can play the game ourself…second…this guy zajef is just a biased person like you…at the end the result in the game speak for themself…and for your own knowledge…nobody use a freeze team against a boss when you cant freeze them…and dps wise ganyu is way better than ayaka in melt team…if we were talking about freeze ganyu maybe….but we talking about melt team…ayaka could beat ganyu if she could work in melt teams….for example i used ayaka with sunfire jean but even sunfire jean couldnt keep up to make ayaka burst melt at all of it ticks…but you can easily use ganyu CA to melt both of normal and bloom frostflake…also the reason ayaka is being used more is genshin players are mostly on mobile and on both mobile and playstation controller its har to aim so they go with a burst nuke like ayaka

         • Tenten, Zajef and other TCs from KQM are the person behind elemental gauge, quadratic scaling, multi-reaction combo/taser and ICD theories. They are reliable and has good credibility atleast way more trustworthy than any thoughts that you wrote on this page. They’re not biased, they are the ones that telling you how good Ganyu was during her shinning era

         • Sweet Paradice…I don’t even know who the hell they are…so don’t tell me they told you how good melt ganyu was…and ganyu shining era is to this day…okay?…they are still biased??

7. Finally got Ganyu C1 with Amos, WOW she is awesome like everyone says. Sad to put my C6 Ayaka on the bench but she is just too clunky and weak for the abyss.

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   • Ranged freeze gameplay is your style. For some people, Ganyu is very strong, but awkward to play (especially on mobile). But if you’re C6 Ayaka is too weak for the Abyss, you’re definitely doing something wrong. lol

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   • C6 Ayaka is too weak for the abyss lmao. Are you using her lvl 1 with lvl 1 dull blade, lvl 1 talents and no artifact? Good try troll.
     C0 Ayaka with amenoma is MORE than enough for all of the abyss rotations from 2.0 except anti-freeze one

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   • 2 years has passed but this guy still doing his best to sell ganyu. Makes me wonder how long it gonna take to make him forget about slandering ayaka ?

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     • This aged like milk
       https://iili.io/Vkd794.jpg

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     • melt ganyu is still setting highest records on par with raiden team.just go and watch 3.0 speedruns on yt

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8. Is she still relevant???

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   • of course, she’s still one of the best DPS in genshin, her DPS potential is so crazy with ~600% multiplayer damage. I just got her and build her and she deals 26k damage per charge shot. lvl 80, 4pc wanderer, prototype crescent r3 lvl 80, normal attack talent 7, no reaction.

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     • Lv 89 4pc wanderer, EM sand piece, skyward harp, NA talent 10, bennett burst, zhongli shield, xiangling = 53k+90k melt damage per CA no food on lv90 raiden boss

       Replace xiangling with kazuha, it becomes 70k+120k melt damage per CA, but it gets way too dank to play

       I tried using prototype crescent with kazuha and adjust my artifck to compensate for the extremely high atk stat surplus, it becomes 65k+110k damage, which is just about less than 10% lower damage, but completely F2P.

       My friend who owns hunter’s path bow does 80k+135k damage…. that’s eula burst final damage every 2s, 5 times per rotation. But despite ganyu’s melt damage, she’s still not the best hyper carry out there. My xq+yelan+zhongli homa hutao does 80k damage per CA, and does 8 to 9 CA per rotation while also doing a fk ton of dmg with xq+yelan and hutao’s own NA damage is not bad, ocassionally doing 25k-30k damage when not on ICD, that is despite my hutao still not having the best artifck due to me giving up on witch set but own an abundant amount of insanely good wanderer set with over 40% crit value per piece. I’m waiting for hutao rerun for her C1 so I can do 11 CA per rotation using dash cancel, effectively increasing team total DPS by over 25% to 37%.

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   • No one wants her anymore tbh

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     • what do you expect?
       -dendro, which is the current fad, doesn’t need her
       -Ayaka powercrept her ages ago
       -Her venti comp is already long forgotten
       -she doesn’t have good roles in the story other than be a background
       -Most mobile players don’t like her

       Just look at her sales. It was only kokomi who carried her because of her new found relevance with dendro.

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       • Mihoyo put brought her when there was a drought of good units. That is that reason why she was still regarded as great. She is good, but she had already become replaceable now that there are far far better alternatives to her.

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9. Freeze Ayaka > Freeze Ganyu
   Childe International > Melt Ganyu

   She’s just mediocre nowadays.

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   • While she certainly isn’t the best in teams anymore, her large power in all teams, even as a support, means she is a master of all trades, which is still very valuable. Also, most people have a lot of good wanderer’s pieces. This makes her a very strong f2p option imo, as her versatility allows her to be much more flexible.

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   • Freeze Ayaka < Freeze Ganyu, Freeze Ayaka has long dead time and doesn't work with Rifthound or continous spawn enemies
     Childe International < Melt Ganyu, she has higher dps to single target

     She's still a beast nowadays.

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     • Your comparison to Ayaka and Ganyu against Rift Hounds is situational. Just because Ganyu excels in that specific scenario doesn’t maker her better overall. The same can be said about Ayaka in the areas where she excels. Against multiple waves of enemies, give Ayaka enough ER, slap Favonious weapons on her supports, and/or use Amenoma, and she can Burst off cooldown.

       At this point, it’s just a competition of egos comparing two great characters that excel in different areas. Pick the one you like and suits you most (or use both to tackle various content) and get over it.

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     • ☝️???

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       • ^ Hi, troll. Always a pleasure. ^^

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         • Not you but the person above you is high on copium

         • Oh, my mistake. lol I’m not sure what “copium” means entirely, but that person I replied to is definitely in some serious denial while grasping at straws.

   • melt ganyu is only second to raiden hypercarry dps wise…so your claim is bullshit as fuck

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     • ☝️???

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     • which c is the raiden in ur context? c0? then ayaka would be in the negative spot

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     • Melt Ganyu is just for nuking and it is highly overrated.
       It was never been a good team due to its inconsistency and poor energy management. Unless you have C6 Ganyu, fast hands and godly aim like Aliss, it will never be a good thing. That is why most people still prefer national and international teams over melt Ganyu. It is easier and does more damage too. Melt Ganyu was also never had any place in top of meta teams

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       • Sweet paradise it sounds like you can’t aim, l2play. Don’t talk about meta if you have no clue about meta.

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         • Meta is most effective tactic available which makes melt ganyu instantly lose its credibility because it harder to play and very inconsistent

       • I agree that its harder to play…but its damage is absolutely better than freeze ayaka or any national team except raiden one…the fact that its harder to play is the reason its not as famous as other meta teams…. because most of genshin players are either lacking at playing the game or are mobile players that cant aim

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         • Melt Ganyu in fact is inferior to national and international teams, freeze ayaka, double hydro or even mono geo in some condition

       • @Sweet Paradise Melt Ganyu has been on top of meta for 2 years are you blind. Just another bad player that cant aim and call the unit bad because of his own terrible aiming

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         • Ganyu was a very meta unit back then. She is on the top of meta before Inazuma act introduced. She is on there not because of her melt team but rather she was there because of her morgana which is the strongest team around that time. But, it’s all changed when Inazuma is released. We have more bosses and enemies that are not pullabe with venti, making her morgana a little bit balanced. She also getting more and more competitors that are just as strong or even stronger than her.

       • Melt ganyu was not a thing not because it is not strong. It is very strong on its own but in the other side it is also very inconsistent, a little bit clucky to use, easy to get interrupted and bad at regaining energy. Making it struggle on repeating the rotation and end up losing some dps (this is why this team is only good for nuking). Melt Ganyu also shares the same support characters with national and international teams which technically a better option to use because they’re easier, better energy management, more damage and more consistent

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         • @Sweet Paradise look…let me end this shit because its frustrating… damage wise melt ganyu is too strong…you don’t wanna admit its better that ayaka freeze thats on you…i don’t care…but dont talk about energy problem because with only 180 er on xiangling you’re ready to go…second…best team for raiden is hypercarry and it can be used without bennet with kazuha and yae and kujou sara or if you don’t have yae you can use xingque or yelan instead… xiangling is absolutely bad in raiden national because it’s reaction with electro make little enemy’s get shoot to oblivion…this make your benny and xiangling to be free for your melt ganyu or for any other team…period

         • I will admit if it was really better but in fact it is not. Many TCs has made a calculation on every teams that we had today and Melt Ganyu is always inferior, way more inferior even against her Morgana team. I have no idea how you made a conclusion but it seems like you have a mindset higher damage per screenshot is better than damage per second

         • And the way you theorize and making calc on melt Ganyu is surprising bad. It is sounds impossible you can do 5CA on single rotation without running out of buff because Ganyu’s CA is actually very slow (without her c6) and the fact you are using diona make it even more suspicious.

         • Sweet Paradice…its not theory dummy…i dont know why you people emphasize on theory when you can use it in abyss…5 ca is easily possible because her ca take 2.2 second but i bet you either dont own the character that make you instead go and use those stupid theorys or you have skill issue which means you dont shoot ca at the right time and its causes you to shoot your 5 ca out of benny ult…now go and do your theorys…Im done whith these nonsense

         • Ganyu’s CA actually takes about 1.8 seconds if you’re properly animation canceling, so in fact 6 CAs are doable during Bennett’s burst in traditional Meltyu. 5 is pretty reasonable and gives you some decent leeway. Getting only 4 off is the bare minimum and any less than that and you genuinely suck at the game.

           I can’t help but notice that Ganyu’s loudest detractors invariably know nothing about playing her.

     • People are still comparing characters from gigachad c6r5 300cd 1000 runs youtube videos lol.

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10. ganyu segs

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    • real

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