1,913 responses to “Furina”

1. If C0 Neuvillette can solo half side abyss under 90 seconds, can Furina do the same? She can do everything Neuvillette has: AOE damage, self heal. It’s all depend on how fast her Ousia attack and how fast her Pneuma heal.
   Assumption: -Only Her in the party, 3 empty slot.
   -C0, 4pc Golden Trouple, ER/HP/Crit, using Her Signature with 100/200 crit ratio, 151.8 ER.
   -No abyss buffs favor her and no enemies on this side have hydro immunity.
   -Goal is complete 3 chambers no more than 90 seconds.
   If can’t, my 2nd try: C1R1,
   If can’t, my 3rd try: C2R1.

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   • Well she’s designed as a support while Neuvilette is a hypercarry, so she won’t be nearly as easy to solo with
     But anyone can solo with enough dedication

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   • She will never be as good as Neuvillette dps wise. her role is designed mainly as a subdps/buffer and she is not going to be the best main hydro dps in the game even if you c6 her

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2. So in short, she will work perfectly with the Fontaine characters. And for the remaining region, we must have a healer on the team? Man, so restrictive playstyle

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   • Alot of characters prefer to have healers/shielders in their team..

     I never thought i’d see the day people would trash a character for preferring to have a sustain unit in their team and that it would be considered a “restrictive playstyle”

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3. At first I was pretty meh about her original C2, but this recent change has got me hyped. Hoyo really knows how to get folks to pull for constellations.

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   • I’m the exact opposite, if she had the previous c2 with less numbers but more uptime, I would have liked that and it would have made her playstyle different from the other archons
     I guess they want to be consistent with archons being mainly supports

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4. “When the duration ends, Furina’s Fanfare points will be cleared”. The wording of this implies that if you recast the ult the durration is refreshed, but the stack count is left over, unlike Yelan’s ascension talent adapt with ease, with specifies that it’s stacking damage bonus is reset on recast, while this is the beta so maybe the descriptons are wrong / incomplete, but has anyone with the beta been able to confirm or deny if it works this way. I’ve seen people go both ways on this.

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   • That’s what i was thinking

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5. Those stupid retard guys in hoyo are fkn absurd… they made neuvilette a beasst, and they totally fkn up furina…
   i was going to pull fo her but now Im changing my mind
   they havve to stop this shit
   do we ask too much? making every unit a good, a damn good unit as neuvilette? yes? too much hoyo stupidhoyo? or you prefer to go random, one good unit one crap unit, one good unit one fkn up unit, according to weather?
   her kit was a beast, and considering the numbers it still is
   but again, it’s locked under constellations…. what a vomit

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   • just get yourself Nevi for Furina, or wait for another Fontaine dps and pray they will be as broken (which most probably wont happen, because devs have limit of one strong unit once in half year and Nevi consumed that limit)

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   • 1-Skill Issue
     2-You clearly didn’t read
     3-That’s all on you
     If you think it’s bad, don’t come back whining after 4.2 when all the metaslaves and calculators tell you she’s actually good. If you think she’s bad, you’re just looking at the visuals, not the numbers.

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   • You’re probably part of the people who thought Nahida was useless before her release…

     You’ll eventually realize how wrong you were.

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   • Godzilla had a stroke trying to read this and died

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   • Honestly after seeing these new changes and more details on the way her summons work, I’d say I’m actually kinda hyped for her! Fontaine really has been killing it with these limited characters, they all have good noticeable roles in the story and some nice lore. The changes they made to her burst are much appreciated, if there is one thing, I’d like it would be if she could heal the party. Since her E kill drains HP from the entire party which could be hard to get back considering the party-wide healers we have right now aren’t… The greatest when it comes to increasing damage potential from what I remember.

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6. Maybe it’s just me, but currently I don’t like her Pneuma/healing stance. The totem doesn’t give anything special besides heals, so I find her healing stance kinda lacking. I also can’t see people using her healing stance in meta/Abyss play as well, unless I’m missing something.

   So, I wish they add some kind of periodic hydro applications to her healing totem. The applications don’t have to deal damage (if you want to talk about balancing), so maybe like in form of rain (like hydro samachurl) or hydro aura like Nilou.

   The only downside I can think of, this could be the final nail in the coffin for Kokomi. But alas, Furina is the hydro archon, so she deserves the world, and Genshin a single player game, so you can play with whoever you want.

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   • Nah you’re not alone, it’s pretty… meh atm. I think a heal for the whole party would balance things out. Sacrificing DPS + hydro application + faster stack generation just for a single target heal only sounds useful for overworld (or co-op if it works on all allies), they could at least let it act as a proper reverse of her Ouisa mode by letting it regen the whole team.

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   • It definitely would’ve seen more use if they didn’t swap her C2 and C6…

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   • Her healing is not supposed to powercreep Kokomi in any way. She already has a global buff for the team, even the healers, plus you would use her with Kokomi instead so why complain about her pneuma-mode summon?
     It’s always a choice so you are not forced to go for the summon but it is a choice and one choice is just obviously better than the other, especially since her healing isn’t gonna give you any more stacks than the ousia summon.
     If it could have something additional to it, I think a passive regen to Furina’s energy while its on field, so having A1 Ayato passive as a part of Furina’s pneuma mode, so both ways to still provide energy.

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     • cuz nobody likes kokomber
       why you all just dont use sucrose instead kazuha or dehya instead xl?
       stationary bake-kurage is really shit
       her 70 ulti manacost also

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         • crap… More a matter of several people not seing her potential.

           Me, having 3 differents sets for Kokomi with not problem to burst off CD/when needed (in Nilou bloom, she have sac frag) in her different teams. ._.

           Stationnary jeelyfish suck as much as Bennett Circle impact so.

           Kokomi is awesome and polyvalent. She is top 5 or 6 char to have in a box. (CN)

       • Her ulti cons 60 now

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   • don’t forget she has 30seconds healing

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   • The pneuma was never meant to garner as much attention as her ousia-arkhe stance. For one, it would never provide as much or nearly as much Fanfare stacks as her Ousia stance, unless she was the best healer in the game period. Additionally, it’s to serve other purposes not tied to combat. For one, it’s to help beign a QoL the two-arkhe pneumousia puzzles. Second, she would have to be the one character with dual arkhe alignment so the pneuma side had to be incorporated somewhere while not being as relevant as the other alignment. And lastly, it’s an overworld QoL, healing without having to cast the burst which is also an overkill when it comes to DPS or a marginal healing desired.

     I also doubt Hoyo wants to powercreep Kokomi that badly. Kokomi already getting blown out the water (pun intended) with the water-walking competition. Hoyo is being careful not to repeat the whole Nahida situation again, where archon is just a straight up upgrade to other teams since the one thing that holds the most value is application, application, application, or for Furina, healing and application.

     If there was one thing Hoyo could allow Furina to get an edge over with her pneuma stance over Kokomi is portable healing. Allowing that Singer of the Stream to follow active character will at least let your team recuperate with her Singer of the Stream if enemy is in an invulnerability phase or entering a second phase. And having something applying an element without damage is very much unseen from Hoyo for a character ability. We only see self elemental application from it but never just elemental app.

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7. mmhhm yess that is some great adjustment.
   over 20 secs her E summon will drain 50% hp from all 4 characters or 200 fanfare stack. if you have a healer then 300 stacks is not too hard for non fontain team.
   50-75% dmg bonus for the whole team without needing to swirl mean she can fit with mono anemo, dendro, geo team or simply open up kazuha for other team and use units like sayu and jean instead. you gonna need something like 170-180 ER for solo furina tho, but that shouldn’t be too hard with fav and festering desire and furina herself still deal okay dmg.

   She’s still rather niche at the moment. she doesn’t outright replace any existing good hydro units so she’s not a priority for people who already has mona, kok, yelan etc.

   her hydro application isn’t exactly great, her healing state doesn’t apply hydro, dmg buff is super conditional. BUT she DOES all that in one unit, we just don’t have teams outside neu to jump through the hoop and reap her full benefit yet (at least not stronger than most of meta team). But i don’t think it’s bad for the game to have some side grade characters.
   gotta wait and see if there’s any new unit that will work well with her. hopefully we will get non fontain units that work great with her like xiao or something.
   But i think she’s a safe enough bet to pull anyway. (I mean we all gonna pull all 7 archons anyway right?)

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8. previously she can heal and damage to fill her farepoints with c2 but now c1 c2 only serve to complete her supporting role… ugh, they also decrease her buff multiplier.

   her e also drain more hp but reduced damage? like okay, healer or fontaine only.

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   • they increased the hp taken by her e so it is easier to gain fanfare, before at lvl 10 her e took 6% hp and healed for 8.6% hp which without her c6 would cause useless overhead for your whole team. now her e can take around 7.6% hp while still healing 8.6% making it much easier to gain fanfare along with her new c2

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   • kinda bummed at her new c2…

     I would’ve loved to give her a haran and go nuts with her hydro infusion but now you gotta be jeffrey bozos nephew to afford it since it was banished to c6…

     now we are stuck with crit ascending character with a crit signature weapon that can’t even dps on field without c6…

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9. previously she can heal and damage to fill her farepoints with c2 but now c1 c2 only serve to complete her supporting role… ugh, they also decrease her buff multiplier.

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   • They increased her buff multiplier not decreased, its now 0.25 per stack from 0.22 per stack
     Also C2 was never really a “good” constellation it was a fun one for people who wanted on field Furina, if you want to build stacks her new C2 just triples the buildup

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     • What Ss means is that her buff at max fanfare at level ten for example went from 99% to 75% after the changes

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       • Yeah.ig but when was anyone but Neuvilette actually getting 450 stacks?

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       • it went from 99% buff (but realistically you could probably only reach around 50%) to 75% buff for most of the burst duration

         a mona with prototype amber and eosf was actually better than her before the change, now she’s slightly better

         she’s definitely forming into a jack of all trades but master of none, and if you want her on another role you need to swap your build, really wish they just add quick loadout swapping
         they could also give her a unique ability to swap loadouts when switching between arkhe

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         • that is an extremely good idea
           …but will probably never get to see the light of day sadly.

     • I mean its still pretty good considering the damage would probably be similar to Yelan’s C6 shots. Also i know im in the minority here but i personally only consider pulling for constellations on 5 stars if they actually offer you different playstyles and make the charater more fun. Because of that, i really was planning on going for her C2 but now its “just” a damage increase, and sure its a pretty good one, i still just hate pulling for constellations that are just a plain old damage buff and add nothing else to the table.

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10. With the new HP drain modifiers in play, is it still — if ever — a viable idea to cheese on Furina’s A1 with a tight-packed single-target healing? Nobody seems to spin the lineup around A1 much, opting to a separate team-wide healer instead.

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    • well one that i will be using for sure is
      alh furina kuki nahida(Prototype amber). or alh furina kuki yaoyao
      kuki should be able to overheal alh just fine. and furina semi-low hydro application will just mean it will be a quickbloom team instead of hyperbloom team which isn’t that bad if furina buff herself, alh and nahida (all of them does good dmg)
      kuki self-dmg should build up fanfare fast too but she might be lower than 50% for furina’s summons to drain so there’s that. Prototype amber nahida will help making stack as well. and in some down time i can see furina switching to healing for emergency while building stack as well.(no hyperbloom for sometime every 2-3 rotation?)
      yaoyao is less dmg than nahida but she has full team heal so you never need to use furina healing mode so there’s that.

      another one would be
      ayaya furina diona kazuha OR ayaya furina rosaria/shenhe sayu OR ayaya furina qiqi kazuha(for madman out there who build qiqi)
      diona should be enough to over heal ayaya and kazuha to trigger furina A1,sayu build stack fast but i would rather have kazuha succ.
      Qiqi heals a lot and personal dmg isn’t too bad i think. it just sucks that she doesn’t generate energy.

      ….who else are single target healer…
      ..dori is… eh

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    • Furina A1 only heals at a bit more than half the rate of her Hp drain, so you would need something like prototype Nahida/switching to singers of the stream in-between rotations to sustain her.

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