966 responses to “Xianyun”

1. well guys I’m here to inform you that this character is very disappointing i just came from the leak subreddit.

   where they published a video of the CC of xianyun vs kairagi and hydro and anemo hilichurl.

   ¿guess what? her cc is very, very disappointing, it’s practically non-existent, if you don’t believe me, go to the leak subreddit and look at the mess they made with this character who at this point is just coomer bait.

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   • Don’t worry.
     She will get the much needed buffs we are all expecting.

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   • If they are dead set on keeping her in her current role, they should roll her A1, A4 and C2 into her base kit, put some VV equivalent shred as her new A4 (To free her from VV bot) and make her new C2 akin to Faruzan C6 (her co-ordinated atk will trigger her skills CC every X seconds, NOT the Crit Dmg buff), whilst also removing the one enemy dmg limit from her buff. Her healing also should be buffed. Not really sure if it would even help her though.

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   • The sheer amount of toxicty in these comment section is just amazing

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     • These are facts… you can go see it leak subreddit and then call me toxic

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       • You must be new here. In this neighborhood, if you say something negative about a character, you will be called a troll. Bad news are not welcome here.

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         • Especially if you say something negative about certain version 1 characters lol.

     • It’s how the common operates lol

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   • Her CC exists, its just that it doesn’t have the poise damage that Kazuha’s hold Elemental Skill has since he does poise damage which throws off enemy poise. They both have the same pull strength and range of it, but Kazuha’s also does good poise damage. So plunge attacks such as with claymores are needed first before Xianyun can pull enemies in with her vacuum which is quite a hurdle for Xianyun to overcome.

     It’s not just about CC anymore. It’s about poise damage, so Xianyun probably needs her plunge attack to have the same poise break as claymores or swords rather than catalyst, or she needs some Sucrose suction. There just needs to be something that breaks their balance or tosses them into the air for Xianyun’s CC to work.

     It isn’t something that can simply be buffed, but needs complementign features that either make it do poise damage or poise damage that follows into her CC. She could be given the same plunge attack strength as Xiao to make the CC have enough effect as soon as enemies are Xiao-ed by her plunge attack.

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     • In one of the videos she is with GaMing destroying the balance of enemies with his plunged attacks while he is a claymore user.

       she simply has a pull for light enemies nothing mor

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   • So, some clarification on our friend’s ‘facts’ here; The videos on the subreddit aren’t good showcases of Xianyun’s grouping capabilities, all they really showcase is that Her E’s poise damage (150) is lower than the poise of the enemies showcased (210). Neither video uses the skill more than the first time at the start, so there’s no extra poise damage that likely would be dealt by a teammate or a swirl reaction, which would guarantee a poise-break on the primary target and leave the second with only 30 poise. This is partly why Sucrose and Venti, who both also deal 150 poise damage with their skills, can stagger and group these high-poise enemies with the help of their team.

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     • And where my point changes, you have practically agreed with me because that CC is in an A1 passive and can only be done with EEE, which has a 12s CD and does not have continuous suction like kazuha or venti.

       It is practically non-existent and with more unnecessarily additional steps
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2. if you’re interested in precise calculation (and even without waiting for retard ytbers) you can check on GI damage calculator now, or on genshin aspirine when she’s released there as well

   anyway considering her buff is calculated on the total amount of her atk, and not on her base, benney, how strange, is still mandatory in her team. his burst, then switch to xianyun which gains extra atk, then faruzan.
   note how stupidly broken her super niche weapon is.
   and a c2r5 xianyun can literally double xiao’s plunge:

   as example I put a totally fair build with xiao: 190crit damage with no extra atk%, an average benney, and an average c6 faruzan, but his weapon. But just for make things easier, we can round his plunge at 60K, which is nothing special with them.
   well, starting from 60k, if xian has 3000 atk that plunge goes to 82k; if you’ve switched from benney to her, it becomes 87k; if you have xian’s weapon it flies to 96k, if you have her c2 it turns to 120k, if you have r5 weapon 140k

   hence is actually more than double
   and yes you can say it’s a hyper high investment, ofc, but it’s not what i mean. I’m just saying that if they consider faruzan broken for him, xianyun is sheer insanity

   if only we had a geo buffer like her…

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   • This mofo said C2 R5 for a 5 star character and wanted to make an argument about her… This mofo is spending the GDP of a small country to C2 R5 her, and then for whatever reason made calcs on an average build XIAO.

     The stupitidy of this MOFO.

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     • who knows how many good people keep dying, and living shits like you still exist…

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     • That’s funny coming from the idiot who contributes little to nothing in this site. You’re literally contradicting yourself

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3. Does anyone know if reaching 5k atk is actually possible? With triple atk artifacts, sig weapon base atk, 28.8% from Ascension, substat from sig weapon, and 25% atk rolls on flower and feather gets her just below 4k. Does she snapshot atk buffs like benny ult or TTDS? At most, which I understand is no small amount, she can give like 6.5k bonus damage. I wonder why they capped the damage bonus at 5k atk when most people will never get there. Maybe they need to change the percentage or just lower the cap to 4k atk. 210% with a 4k atk cap gives 8400 bonus damage which is almost the same.

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   • Probably not, even Shenhe will hardly hit 5k, except you have her weapon with some refinements, you can definitely 4.5k if you go wild

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   • Triple attack, shielded full stacks with Memory of Dust, 6 substats of atk% on plume and feather, and with Bennett, you would likely reach 4000. 5000 is a stretch to reach.

     Xianyun’s values needs to be readjusted. Some ideas- Drop 5000 cap to 4000 cap, but raise enemies that can be hit by additional dmg buff each time to 3. Then allow Hold E to execute the next climb of Skyladder when last jump is fully executed, then she jumps. to full height. Her elemental burst should have a plunge attack movement speed buff if able, and her CC should be enabled whenever 2 layers of Adeptal Assistance are removed rather than 3 E plunge. If tied to her Q, it means the CC can be present even when she is off field, and you have poise break from claymore plunge attacks.

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     • ok so with Memory of Dust, you’ll get ~4160 atk with full shield stacks. with bennet on top of that, it is indeed possible to get 5k atk. The problem is if Xianyun will snapshot her atk at the time of using her Burst. if she doesn’t snapshot, I doubt Bennett’s Burst lasts long enough to get the full damage bonus on every plunge. That’s just one problem. Another problem is how many people even have Memory of Dust. I do bc I’ve been playing long enough but MoD hasn’t seen a banner since July 2022 and I would guess most people skipped bc of how low value it is. The other problem is keeping a shield up. That pretty much forces you to run Zhongli since his shield is almost indestructible. Good if you have him, bad if you don’t.

       Just for reference, 4160 atk without benny ult is 7072 bonus damage. certainly more than her sig weapon but you lose out on the 28% plunge damage and the easy ER. I don’t know enough to say if that is worth it or not. As I said, I have MoD so I’ll probably use that and save the primos.

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4. The only thing in her kit that has CC it’s her E.
   Her ult drone doesn’t do CC.
   Disappointed. A disgrace to our nation.

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5. Food for thought:
   I see two mayor downsides using her with Furina, especially in tandem with Gaming.

   First is a more general problem: her HoT healing for the whole team will probably top it up all the time, slowing down Furinas stack gain. Usually, Furina would have eaten half the teams HP by the second rotation, allowing her stacks to instantly gain a huge amount. With Xianyun it will creep up slowly like Yelan, and as such lowering the teams total dmg output.

   Second is her follow up attack when the active character uses a plunge attack, which will eat up any remaining hydro aura from the target. After Gaming or any other pyro will have vaped half of the aura, Xianyun will eat the rest. Maybe not every time due to ICD, but still. With the whole hydro aura gone, it won’t be any different than forward vape, with all its possible downsides but none of the benefits, mainly the higher dmg output.

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6. So many stupid restrictions on her kit for no logical reason, why is her E not usable in mid air? Kazuha is 2 years old, the game won’t implode from him being power creeped in the overworld Mihoyo, her E and C1 are utterly worthless in this state, only the plunge is good in combat.
   Another thing that make her E a head scratcher is the fact that it can only hit the same enemy once even though it’s an EEE, just why? She’s a support unit her dmg isn’t breaking the game with the way she’s build and how niche her buffs are.
   And the last restriction is her A4, what logic does it make to release a plunge dedicated support that can only buff the dmg vs ONE enemy when plunge attacks are all designed to be aoe and are the best in aoe situations? Just make it a plunge dmg buff and change the numbers accordingly??
   Who designed this kit, seriously?

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7. My question now:

   Can she essentially fly with C6 ?

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   • No.. but yes? you can only jump and always need touch grass.. i mean ground for skill get reset.
     But you can walk like skipping for long distance… yayy

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     • This is so stupid, so you cant use her e in air like xiao or kazuha? MIHOYO WHYYY

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       • Even Wanderer is better at flying lol

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         • She is literally a BIRD

8. Question, does the jumping high increase also affects herself?

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   • It should yes, it would specify in the description if it doesn’t apply to Cloud Retainer herself.

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   • if you had basic English comprehension skills you wouldn’t have felt the need to ask this juvenile question

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   • Yep. 3 skyladder jumps increase her dmg by double of the 2nd skyladder jump. The highest Skyladder jump is what lets her cause the CC she has. But when it comes to her Burst jumping ability, then yeah, you can use her as a DPS there, but she doesn’t carry very fantastic plunge attack multipliers vs Diluc.

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9. i just came from watching jstern27’s summary about xianyun.

   for God’s sake, this woman is an ass, there is no reason to pull on her if you have jeans.

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   • Got Jean and still pulling for Xian because I like her Design…

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10. im new in genshin, i wamt ask something. look the Xianyun kit, the only buff plunging atk she provided ate from accension passive, so my question is how much that she can provide by using math.

    Assuming Xianyun Atk =5k
    Exp Hutao Atk after E = 3.5k

    Just assume only both at that team.

    Thank You

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