 | Name | 甘雨 |
| Title | 循々守月 | |
| Occupation | 月海亭 | |
| Association | LIYUE | |
| Rarity |  | |
| Weapon |  Bow | |
| Element |  Cryo | |
| Day of Birth | 2 | |
| Month of Birth | 12 | |
| Vision (Introduced) | 氷 | |
| Constellation (Introduced) | 仙麟座 | |
| Chinese Seuyu | 林簌 | |
| Japanese Seuyu | 上田麗奈 | |
| English Seuyu | Jennifer Losi | |
| Korean Seuyu | 김선혜 | |
| Description | 月海亭の秘書。その身には仙獣「麒麟」の血が流れている。 | |
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| Stats |
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| Related Items |
| Gallery |
| Sounds |
| Quotes |
| Stories |
Stats
| Lv | HP | Atk | Def | CritRate% | CritDMG% | Bonus CritDMG% | Materials | Total Materials |
| 1 | 763 | 26.07 | 49.06 | 5.0% | 50.0% | 0% | ||
| 20 | 1978 | 67.62 | 127.26 | 5.0% | 50.0% | 0% | 133 20000 | 13320000 |
| 20+ | 2632 | 89.97 | 169.33 | 5.0% | 50.0% | 0% | ||
| 40 | 3939 | 134.62 | 253.37 | 5.0% | 50.0% | 0% | 32101540000 | 113186000032 |
| 40+ | 4403 | 150.5 | 283.26 | 5.0% | 50.0% | 9.6% | ||
| 50 | 5066 | 173.16 | 325.89 | 5.0% | 50.0% | 9.6% | 64201260000 | 13318120K9612 |
| 50+ | 5686 | 194.33 | 365.74 | 5.0% | 50.0% | 19.2% | ||
| 60 | 6355 | 217.22 | 408.82 | 5.0% | 50.0% | 19.2% | 38301880000 | 16318200K914303 |
| 60+ | 6820 | 233.1 | 438.71 | 5.0% | 50.0% | 19.2% | ||
| 70 | 7495 | 256.19 | 482.18 | 5.0% | 50.0% | 19.2% | 6124512100K | 110818300K92630912 |
| 70+ | 7960 | 272.07 | 512.07 | 5.0% | 50.0% | 28.8% | ||
| 80 | 8643 | 295.43 | 556.02 | 5.0% | 50.0% | 28.8% | 6206024120K | 116818420K946309366 |
| 80+ | 9108 | 311.31 | 585.91 | 5.0% | 50.0% | 38.4% | ||
| 90 | 9797 | 334.85 | 630.21 | 5.0% | 50.0% | 38.4% |
Skills
Active Skils
 | 通常攻撃·流天射術 | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
最大6段の連続射撃を行う。 ダメージがより高く、より精確な 照準時、氷寒の気が矢先に集まり、攻撃と共に発射される。チャージの時間により、異なる効果を発動する。 ·1段チャージ：氷寒の気が集まった矢を放ち、 ·2段チャージ：霜華の矢を放ち、 空中から矢の雨を放ち、凄まじいスピードで落下し地面に衝撃を与え、落下時に範囲ダメージを与える。 | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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 | 山沢麟跡 | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| 一輪の氷蓮を残して後退し、全ての魑魅魍魎から離れ、 ·持続的に周囲の敵を挑発し、攻撃を引き付ける。 ·耐久度は甘雨のHP上限によって決まる。 ·破壊された時または継続時間終了後に激しく開花し、 「私を見かけたと？それは気のせいでしょう。その時間はまだ残業中です。」 | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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 | 降衆天華 | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| 大気中の霜雪を集め、退魔の氷霊珠を召喚する。 氷霊珠が存在している間、持続的に氷柱を降らし、範囲内の敵に 甘雨は甘い雨を降らすことができる。だが、邪魔者や外道にとってその甘い雨は、寒苦の雨でもある。 | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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Passive Skills
 | 弓蔵待命 |
| 弓を鍛造する時、消費した鉱石の15%が返還される。 |
 | 唯一の心 |
| 霜華の矢を放った後の5秒以内に放たれた霜華の矢と霜華満開の会心率+20%。 |
 | 天地安泰 |
Constellations
 | 飲露 |
| 二段チャージ重撃の霜華の矢または霜華満開が命中した時、敵の 命中時に甘雨の元素エネルギーを2回復。二段チャージの重撃による元素エネルギーの回復効果は、1回の重撃で1度のみ発動可能。 |
 | 獲麟 |
 | 雲行 |
最大Lv.15まで。 |
 | 西狩 |
受けるダメージのアップ量は初期が5%、3秒毎に5%アップし、最大25%までアップできる。 敵がエリアを出た後、エリアによる効果は3秒続く。 |
 | 折草 |
最大Lv.15まで。 |
 | 履虫 |
Skill Ascension
Related Items
| Icon | Name | Rarity | Family | Recipe |
 | 甘雨 | 5 | Char Unlock Item | |
 | 甘雨·麒麟の跡 | 4 | Namecard | |
 | 甘雨 | 1 | Homeworld, 仲間, Exterior Furniture, 仲間, Indoor Furniture, Furniture, Character In-Residence | |
 | 玄玉瑶芳 | 4 | Costume | |
 | 霜麟聚露 | 1 | Costume | |
 | 盛世太平 | 3 | Crafted Item, Special Food, Buff Item, Food | |
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Gallery
360 Spin
Idle #1
Idle #2
Attack
Elemental Skill
Elemental Burst
Sounds
| Title | EN | CN | JP | KR |
| Party Switch | ||||
| Opening Chest | ||||
| Normal Attack | ||||
| Medium Attack | ||||
| Heavy Attack | ||||
| Taking Damage (Low) | ||||
| Taking Damage (High) | ||||
| Battle Skill #1 | ||||
| Battle Skill #3 | ||||
| Sprinting Starts | ||||
| Sprinting Ends | ||||
| Jumping | ||||
| Climbing | ||||
| Heavy Breathing (Climbing) | ||||
| Open World Gliding (Start) | ||||
| Open World Idle | ||||
| Fainting | ||||
| Idle Performance |
Quotes
Audio Language:
| Title | VoiceOver |
| 初めまして… | |
| 世間話·穏やか | |
| 世間話·聞こえる | |
| 世間話·配慮 | |
| 雨の日·心配 | |
| 雨の日·音 | |
| 雨上がり… | |
| 晴れの日… | |
| 風の日… | |
| おはよう… | |
| こんにちは… | |
| こんばんは… | |
| おやすみ… | |
| 甘雨自身について… | |
| 仕事について… | |
| 請求について… | * 好感度Lv.6後に解放 |
| 評価について… | * 好感度Lv.6後に解放 |
| 「神の目」について… | * 好感度Lv.4後に解放 |
| シェアしたいこと… | |
| 興味のあること·名前 | |
| 興味のあること·清心 | |
| モラクスについて·信頼 | * 好感度Lv.4後に解放 |
| モラクスについて·追いかける | * 好感度Lv.4後に解放 |
| 凝光について… | * 好感度Lv.4後に解放 |
| 刻晴について·わだかまり | * 好感度Lv.4後に解放 |
| 刻晴について·考えを変える | * 好感度Lv.4後に解放 |
| 行秋について… | * 好感度Lv.4後に解放 |
| 香菱について… | * 好感度Lv.4後に解放 |
| 北斗について… | * 好感度Lv.4後に解放 |
| ヨォーヨについて… | * 好感度Lv.4後に解放 |
| 魈について… | * 好感度Lv.4後に解放 |
| 煙緋について… | * 好感度Lv.4後に解放 |
| 申鶴について… | * 好感度Lv.4後に解放 |
| 夜蘭について… | * 好感度Lv.4後に解放 |
| 閑雲について… | * 好感度Lv.4後に解放 |
| 甘雨を知る·1 | |
| 甘雨を知る·2 | * 好感度Lv.3後に解放 |
| 甘雨を知る·3 | * 好感度Lv.4後に解放 |
| 甘雨を知る·4 | * 好感度Lv.5後に解放 |
| 甘雨を知る·5 | * 好感度Lv.6後に解放 |
| 甘雨の趣味… | |
| 甘雨の悩み… | |
| 好きな食べ物… | |
| 嫌いな食べ物… | |
| 贈り物を受け取る·1 | |
| 贈り物を受け取る·2 | |
| 贈り物を受け取る·3 | |
| 誕生日… | |
| 突破した感想·起 | * 突破段階「1」で解放 |
| 突破した感想·承 | * 突破段階「2」で解放 |
| 突破した感想·転 | * 突破段階「4」で解放 |
| 突破した感想·結 | * 突破段階「6」で解放 |
| 元素スキル·1 | |
| 元素スキル·2 | |
| 元素スキル·3 | |
| 元素爆発·1 | |
| 元素爆発·2 | |
| 元素爆発·3 | |
| 元素爆発·4 | |
| ダッシュ開始·1 | |
| ダッシュ開始·2 | |
| ダッシュ終了·1 | |
| 宝箱を開ける·1 | |
| 宝箱を開ける·2 | |
| 宝箱を開ける·3 | |
| HP低下·1 | |
| HP低下·2 | |
| HP低下·3 | |
| 仲間HP低下·1 | |
| 仲間HP低下·2 | |
| 戦闘不能·1 | |
| 戦闘不能·2 | |
| 戦闘不能·3 | |
| ダメージを受ける·1 | |
| 重ダメージを受ける·1 | |
| チーム加入·1 | |
| チーム加入·2 | |
| チーム加入·3 |
Stories
| Title | Text |
| キャラクター詳細 | 璃月、ここに住む人々の多くは「玉京台」の生活に憧れを抱くが、その規則を知る者はほとんどいない。 人々は「璃月七星」が才能に溢れた集団であり、璃月の命綱を握っていることを知っているが、全ての決断がどのようにして決定されているのかを容易には理解できない。 人々は新しい年に公布される条例が市場を大きく動かすことを知っているが、それがどのようにして繁雑な議事録の中から抜き出され、理解しやすい言葉に書き換えられているのか知らない。 甘雨は「月海亭」の秘書であり、世の人々の目に映らない仕事をいくつも担当している。 人々は甘雨の地位を知っているが、それでも「月海亭」の秘書と、夜明けに埠頭で黙々と朝食を楽しむ彼女を結びつけるのは困難であった。 朝日が昇りきる前に、彼女は再び玉京台にある月海亭へと戻り、引き続き「契約」を完遂するために働く。 ——そう、それは三千年前に彼女と「岩王帝君」が結んだ契約なのだ。 |
| キャラクターストーリー1 | 甘雨は、七星のうち誰か一人の「専属秘書」というわけではなく、「璃月七星」全体の秘書である。 その温厚な見た目とは裏腹に、その内には盤石な意思が秘められている。 このことを、仙人たちを率いる岩王帝君はとうに見抜いていた。 遥か昔、「璃月七星」が初めて璃月に現れた時、甘雨は初代七星の秘書を務めることになった。 それから璃月七星は幾度となく世代交代を繰り返すも、そのそばにはいつも甘雨がいた。 それはその長い年月の間、璃月各所の膨大な書類の処理を全て甘雨が担ってきたことを意味する。 彼女は仕事量が七倍、百倍、千倍になったとしても、微塵も責任感を減らすことなく、あの最初の日から変わらずに働いてきた。 かつて、何が甘雨をそうまでして突き動かすのか理由を探ろうとした者がいたが、その答えは明らかになることがなかったそうだ。 「私がしたことは、帝君の功績と比べたら…足元にも及びません」 * 好感度Lv.2後に解放 |
| キャラクターストーリー2 | 「私の仕事は、璃月に存在する数多の命に、最大の幸福を与えることです」 ほとんどの状況下において、甘雨は信頼に値する秘書である。 膨大ともいえるその仕事の数々を、彼女以上に上手く処理する者はいないだろう。さらに、彼女は璃月のあらゆる物事に対して、独特で鋭い視点を持ち合わせている。 ただ、甘雨が頼りになるのは「ほとんどの状況下」でのことであり、一部はそうではない。 肝心な場面であればあるほど、少しの失敗も許されないと力み、彼女は余計な緊張をしてしまうのだ。そして、その緊張のせいで失敗を犯す。 例えば、璃月の1年の中で最も重要な儀式のひとつである「七星迎仙儀式」でのことだ。 甘雨はある年の「七星迎仙儀式」に3分遅刻し、群衆が見つめる中、人混みをかき分けてやっと儀式の場に到着したことがあった。 その後、甘雨は顔を赤面させながら口ごもり、言い訳もせず、ただ心の中で「岩王帝君」に何千回と謝罪した。 仲のいい同僚は、この失態には何か裏があると考えた。 顔見知り程度の同僚たちは、帝君が特に気にしていないのを見て、それに倣うことにした。 プライベートでも付き合いのある者は彼女を心配し、仕事量を調整するか、短期の休暇を取得するよう勧めたが甘雨は首を横に振った。 「今年の式典に着ていく衣装の飾りをどれにすべきか悩んでいたら、2時間も経っていました…」 ——このような理由を、甘雨は絶対に誰にも言わないだろう。 * 好感度Lv.3後に解放 |
| キャラクターストーリー3 | 千年はどれくらい長いのか？ それは荻花洲に咲き誇っていた琉璃百合が洪水により絶滅するほど長く、賑やかだった帰離原が戦後寂れて廃墟と化すほど長い。 千年はどれくらい短いのか？ 甘雨にとって、それは瞬く間のこと。 凡人では想像もできない長い年月の中、甘雨は玉京台に座り続け、あらゆる書類を処理してきた。 全ての楼門の建設を記録し、全ての産業の繁栄を目にした。 甘雨は時間の流れを客観的に捉えていた。時間は白紙の上で絶え間なく更新される膨大な数字であり、あらゆる色を使って区分される必要のあるテーブルであると。 時間は、甘雨の心を変えることができなかった。彼女はずっと「人」と「仙獣」の間で揺れ動いている。 麒麟である彼女には、人間の世界で起こるたくさんの争いを理解できない。 一方、その身に流れる人の血が彼女に、人間社会に融け込む希望を囁くのだ。 * 好感度Lv.4後に解放 |
| キャラクターストーリー4 | ひとたび仕事から離れると、甘雨は普段とは違う一面を見せる。 彼女には昼寝の習慣があり、まるで体内に寸分の狂いもない時計が埋め込まれているかのように、時間になると場所や状況に関係なく、体を丸めてすぐに眠ってしまうのだ。たとえヒルチャールが彼女を囲みながら騒がしく踊っていても、彼女が目を覚ます事はない。 この習慣は最初「璃月七星」の身内同士の笑い話でしかなかった。 だが、ある日「天璇星」に同伴し昼食を外で済ませた後、満腹になった甘雨が道端に積まれた干し草の上で眠ってしまったことがあった。そして、そのまま荻花洲へと運ばれてしまい、荷下ろしの時に頭を地面にぶつけてようやく目を覚ましたという。 元の場所へ戻るまでの3時間、「天璇星」は甘雨が何も告げずに姿を消すやつではないと重々理解していたため、危うく失踪届けを出してしまう寸前だったそうだ。 その後、「今後、昼寝は安全な場所で行うこと」という訓戒を受けた甘雨は、落ち込みながらこう口にした。 「璃月は…どこも安全な場所ではないのですか」と。 甘雨の世間に対する認識が多くの人とズレているのは、彼女の中に仙獣の血が流れているからなのかもしれない。 * 好感度Lv.5後に解放 |
| キャラクターストーリー5 | 甘雨に仙獣「麒麟」の血が流れていることは、璃月港であまり知られていない。 緋雲の丘を通る時、彼女を初めてみる者は毎回、その長い髪から伸びている物について聞く。それに対し、彼女はいつも家に伝わる髪飾りだと誤魔化すのである。 「もし、みんなに本当のことを知られてしまったら、もっと距離を取られてしまいます…」 今まで、一度も璃月の民と親しくなったことなどないが、甘雨にとって心の距離を置かれることは悲しいことなのだ。 また、それとは別にもう一つ重要な理由がある。これが「麒麟の角」であることを正直に話してしまえば、好奇心から角を触る人が現れるかもしれないからだ。 ——心理的や生理的に関わらず、角にも感覚があるのだ。 また他にも、甘雨が用心深く隠している秘密がある、それが「体型の維持」だ。 麒麟は菜食主義者だが、璃月の料理はその名を天下に轟かせるほど美味であり、たとえ野菜料理であっても食欲を抑えるのは難しい。 そのため、町での生活に慣れた甘雨は、己の体型と体重を常に気にするようになった。 気付けば美味しいものに吸い寄せられていたなんてこともしばしあり、食欲をコントロールすることはドラゴンスパインで烈焔花を見つけるのに等しいくらい困難であると彼女は考えている。 だが、たとえ困難なことであっても、甘雨は努力を怠ったりはしない。 彼女は数千年前の魔神戦争中、毬のように丸々と太っており、その体型ゆえに巨獣の喉を詰まらせたことがあった。息の出来なくなった巨獣はいとも容易く降伏したという。 その恥ずべき過去を繰り返さぬよう、甘雨は何がなんでも体型を維持すると心に強く誓っているのである。 * 好感度Lv.6後に解放 |
| 玉京台植物誌 | 玉京台でよく見られる植物の特徴や習性を記した手記、その秀麗な字は甘雨の手書きによるものである。 手記は明確に部類分けされており、内容は簡潔かつ的確で、小難しい内容は分かりやすく要約までされている。例えば、琉璃百合の保護の要点や霓裳花の移植についてなどだ。 読み物としても専門書としても、正式に出版しても良いレベルのものである。 ——以上が、最初のページをいくつかめくった時の感想だ。 ページを後ろからめくった時、その内容に驚かされることだろう。 手記の後ろの数ページは、その大部分が黒く塗りつぶされているのだ。 じっと目を凝らすことで、そこに各種野菜の育て方が記されていることを辛うじて判別できる。 「自分で野菜を育てられるようになると、食欲をコントロールするのがもっと難しくなります」 甘雨は拳を強く握りしめながら己の欲望を抑え、苦労してまとめ上げた成果を全てなかったことにしたのである。 ある日の事、お腹を空かせた甘雨が花の水やりをしようとした時、霓裳花へと頭から突っ込んでしまった。その時、もしこれがスイートフラワーだったらと妄想することで、自分の食欲を紛らわせたという。 そして、そのまま昼寝の時間になり、彼女は山積みのスイートフラワーに包まれる夢を見るのであった。 * 好感度Lv.4後に解放 |
| 神の目 | 麒麟は仙獣の中の仁獣であり、甘露を飲み、嘉禾を食す。 生きた虫を踏まず、生きた草を折らず、群れず、旅をせず、罠に入らず、穏やかで寛大で、温厚で優雅な一族だ。 過去に海の中で巨獣が暴れまわり、足元の大地が脅かされた時、平穏という言葉は日常の中から消え去った。 三千年前、甘雨は岩神モラクスの召喚に応え、魔神戦争において彼に助力した。 戦争が終結すると、彼女は璃月に残り、人々がより完璧な国を作り上げるための手伝いを始めた。 初代の璃月七星が補佐を必要とした時、彼女はこの任を引き受けて七星の秘書となる。 そして彼女がこの決断を下した瞬間、腰元に「神の目」が現れたそうだ。それは彼女に卓越した肉体と、世界と共鳴する力を与えた。 その時、甘雨の心は平和と安堵に満たされていた。 どんなに強くなろうとも、「神の目」を使うことはないだろう。これは璃月を守る最後の手段である。 仙獣と人間の混血として、彼女は二つの種族の架け橋となることを選択した。そして「神の目」は、その新しい責任への証人である。 * 好感度Lv.6後に解放 |
100 responses to “甘雨”
…But ganyu is still good
just not great
Plenty great, what are you smoking?
got the most toxic fanbase
to be fair raiden’s fanbase is worse
both the braindeds from twitter and the meta players
Agree. If you fail to say her real name “Ei”, you’ll be crucified and burnt at a stake by her fanbase.
Not even close, hater
Ganyu is still the apex absolute bestest dps in the game it is just a fact. It is also a fact nothing will change it because mihoyo has realized they cant just bring out anymore dps like ganyu which will ridicule the game. aint gonna argue with noobs simps on copium.
“Ganyu Mains Since The Beginning”
Fun fact about Ganyu: she’s currently taking care of Yaoyao, a child from Liyue harbor. However, Yaoyao seems to be more of an assistant to Ganyu, and has left some notes at Wangshu Inn, discussing Ganyu’s needs.
Yaoyao writes things like “Can the owner please refrain from putting chilis in Ganyu’s food? She often stays up late and has a sensitive stomach, which chilis do absolutely no favors for.”
The owner later teases Yaoyao, saying that GANYU is the one that needs to be taken care of, not Yaoyao. So maybe we’ll get Ganyu In a quest involving Yaoyao?! I wonder if Ganyu and Yaoyao have a mother-daughter relationship
Ganyu is still very pretty and very strong. I don’t know what more y’all need from her.
Plus, I’d say she’s a relatively old unit, so the fact she’s still up there is impressive, you can’t lie.
I’m not one of them but I feel bad for the people who got Ganyu back in 1.2, when she was ridiculed as “Cryo Amber” by trolls. Now too many newbs have rerolled for Ganyu to get the best cryo dps and the essential part of a freeze team, one of the two meta teams in Genshin (the other meta team has Raiden).
Original Ganyu owners since 1.2 should get a unique costume or an Amos bow “Special True Ganyu Main Edition” to distinguish them from fake Ganyu mains.
Ridiculous and full of petty salt. Ganyu is great in her own right. She doesn’t need “special Edition” item to shine. You don’t represent actual Ganyu Mains (new or old). True Ganyu mains also know there are more than two meta teams in Genshin. But you do you.
there are other meta teams…yeah…but still melt ganyu is way better dps wise to freeze ayaka…and evryone knows ayaka is best at her freeze team
Source: Trust me bro?
source…speedruns on youtube…but i bet you dont wanna see them cause you are biased…watch some of the recent abyss speedruns
Speedrun on YouTube. That hit so hard. You had me dying of laugh LMFAO
Ayaka main coping so hard.
@LOL WHAT?…Nah…you died when you saw the speedruns…hahahaha
Like I said, you do you. It doesn’t change the fact that Ganyu isn’t the only meta unit regardless of whether you say she’s “better” than an another character. That wasn’t the point I was trying to make.
Come on dude, I can use Venti, Bennett & Ganyu to beat the abyss, but that doesn’t mean melt Ganyu is my first choice. You can’t just use other people’s speedrun clip to support your theory(and it’s very hard to achieve) , you have to realize that most people doesn’t have C6R5.
Ganyu is the best cyro dps and one of the two meta team beside raiden’s???I swear to god I’m not joking bro. Omg please… I’m not joking bro like she’s the best bro wdym ???
Let him cope
the fastest speedruns in recent abysses are basicaly raiden hypercarry or melt ganyu…so your the one whose coping…like goddamn just go and watch the fucking speedruns yourself and stop shitting in comment section here because no one at the end gonna pull on a character over your comments
Source : i made it up?
source…aliss runs in abyss 12
Dude probably watched Aliss videos and thinking all Ganyu mains can do the same ?
Of course it’s Aliss. It is like 0.00000001% chance you can do the same even if you have C6 R5 Ganyu. Aliss is just different breed. He got skills that most of players barely has. He is fast and very good at aiming. He is very skilled on what he do not only with melt Ganyu but other teams too. I have no idea why someone is using his footage to make a conclusion melt Ganyu is just that good like his melt Ganyu is something that anyone’s can play
@Sweet Paradise…yeah with a bit more money to make my weapon r5 i can do what aliss is doing…because im good at playing…now go and cry…hahahaha
Sure dude! A whale with C6+R5 characters recording a pure showcase video on YouTube with like a 100 trials for entertainment purpose is surely the power of average melt Ganyu indeed.
Melt ganyu so strong, so powercrept baby. Yes sir
Meanwhile what therychafters actually says about melt ganyu :
https://i.postimg.cc/0yVnr7fP/IMG-20220207-184926.jpg
This one too ??
https://youtu.be/x9r0LeBUqSo
the average melt ganyu is my alt account witch is completely f2p doing 55 k in noramal and 107 in bloom melt paired with c0 diona and c5 bennet and xiangling…also my ganyu weapon is r3 hamayumi…stats…50 crit rat and 190 crit dmg with 140…in a rotaion she can do 5 charged shot witch is 5x162k equal to 810k in a 15 second duration of benny and xiangling ult time…imo this f2p is beyond cracked specialy with the fact that her 4 star weapon isnt at r5…ohhhh…and by the way i have her c6r1 on my main….if you you cant afford to c6 a character thats not my problem
Also take into account that a freeze teams wether be ganyu or ayaka is absoulutely useless against bosses…thats why people either go nuke hypercarry raiden or melt ganyu or vape hutao or vape yoimiya or the goddamn nuke eula…because these are boss killers…freeze is useless against bosses
It is very impossible to do 5CA on a single rotation without running out of buff and the fact you are using diona as your shielder make it even more suspicious. Not to mention Ganyu slow CA and many other things that just doesn’t make any sense
Sweet Paradise…Then go and try it for yourself because you don’t know about her ca obviously and the fact that i wasted my time explaining her kit to you turn out to be a waste of time…and just for your own knowledge…her ca take almost 2.2 seconds….but you must be precise to do it on time to get 5 ca on time…my diona is also c6 which gives me 200 em….that’s why i use her…and yeah…her shield is enough if you build her hp to be high
You’re right. Everyone should definitely try out your guide so they can finally knows how terrible it was
If anything, that just shows you shouldn’t listen to Ayzel about Ganyu. The only Meltyu variation that’s anywhere close to being that low is the definitively worst one, using Kazuha as the pyro applicator. The other pyro applicators, Xiangling, Nahida, and Jean hover around 45k-50k dps (although Jean gets there by running Diona as a shielder, but gets away with her shorter shield duration with a much shorter CAing phase)
In fact, considering similar past sussy takes he’s had (like Hu Tao only getting 5 CAs per rotation), it’s probably best practice to not listen to Ayzel about anything
cringe mf
It has been 2 years but ganyu mains still can’t move on from 1.2 where is ganyu being praised alot during that time ?
All big and reliable TCs such as Zajef, Tenten, and Ayzel had pointed out Ganyu is now getting balanced and mostly overrated by her stans.
why is Ganyu getting balanced?
https://youtu.be/fiToH0XSozc ( is Ganyu still good in 3.0? ) by KQM’s Zajef
why Ganyu is overrated?
https://youtu.be/8znvpBT5kV4 ( top 5 most overrated characters by genshin community) by Tenten
She still as strong as usual but rather not the best option (anymore) because we have alot of new characters who are similar or uses the same team but can do it (perform) better than her.
Speaking about Ganyu vs Ayaka (since many commenters on this page likely your’s too). I think genshin players in general has acknowledged that Ayaka is stronger and better in term of DPS. So It’s pointless if you still using that comparison in order to troll people that coming to this page
All pro Genshin players and serious theorycrafters agree that Ganyu is the strongest cryo dps and one of the two meta dps (the other is Raiden).
I have not seen any of them saying that but okay. You do you. Have a nice day
First of all… We dont need theory when we can play the game ourself…second…this guy zajef is just a biased person like you…at the end the result in the game speak for themself…and for your own knowledge…nobody use a freeze team against a boss when you cant freeze them…and dps wise ganyu is way better than ayaka in melt team…if we were talking about freeze ganyu maybe….but we talking about melt team…ayaka could beat ganyu if she could work in melt teams….for example i used ayaka with sunfire jean but even sunfire jean couldnt keep up to make ayaka burst melt at all of it ticks…but you can easily use ganyu CA to melt both of normal and bloom frostflake…also the reason ayaka is being used more is genshin players are mostly on mobile and on both mobile and playstation controller its har to aim so they go with a burst nuke like ayaka
Tenten, Zajef and other TCs from KQM are the person behind elemental gauge, quadratic scaling, multi-reaction combo/taser and ICD theories. They are reliable and has good credibility atleast way more trustworthy than any thoughts that you wrote on this page. They’re not biased, they are the ones that telling you how good Ganyu was during her shinning era
Sweet Paradice…I don’t even know who the hell they are…so don’t tell me they told you how good melt ganyu was…and ganyu shining era is to this day…okay?…they are still biased??
Finally got Ganyu C1 with Amos, WOW she is awesome like everyone says. Sad to put my C6 Ayaka on the bench but she is just too clunky and weak for the abyss.
Ranged freeze gameplay is your style. For some people, Ganyu is very strong, but awkward to play (especially on mobile). But if you’re C6 Ayaka is too weak for the Abyss, you’re definitely doing something wrong. lol
C6 Ayaka is too weak for the abyss lmao. Are you using her lvl 1 with lvl 1 dull blade, lvl 1 talents and no artifact? Good try troll.
C0 Ayaka with amenoma is MORE than enough for all of the abyss rotations from 2.0 except anti-freeze one
2 years has passed but this guy still doing his best to sell ganyu. Makes me wonder how long it gonna take to make him forget about slandering ayaka ?
This aged like milk
https://iili.io/Vkd794.jpg
melt ganyu is still setting highest records on par with raiden team.just go and watch 3.0 speedruns on yt
Is she still relevant???
of course, she’s still one of the best DPS in genshin, her DPS potential is so crazy with ~600% multiplayer damage. I just got her and build her and she deals 26k damage per charge shot. lvl 80, 4pc wanderer, prototype crescent r3 lvl 80, normal attack talent 7, no reaction.
Lv 89 4pc wanderer, EM sand piece, skyward harp, NA talent 10, bennett burst, zhongli shield, xiangling = 53k+90k melt damage per CA no food on lv90 raiden boss
Replace xiangling with kazuha, it becomes 70k+120k melt damage per CA, but it gets way too dank to play
I tried using prototype crescent with kazuha and adjust my artifck to compensate for the extremely high atk stat surplus, it becomes 65k+110k damage, which is just about less than 10% lower damage, but completely F2P.
My friend who owns hunter’s path bow does 80k+135k damage…. that’s eula burst final damage every 2s, 5 times per rotation. But despite ganyu’s melt damage, she’s still not the best hyper carry out there. My xq+yelan+zhongli homa hutao does 80k damage per CA, and does 8 to 9 CA per rotation while also doing a fk ton of dmg with xq+yelan and hutao’s own NA damage is not bad, ocassionally doing 25k-30k damage when not on ICD, that is despite my hutao still not having the best artifck due to me giving up on witch set but own an abundant amount of insanely good wanderer set with over 40% crit value per piece. I’m waiting for hutao rerun for her C1 so I can do 11 CA per rotation using dash cancel, effectively increasing team total DPS by over 25% to 37%.
No one wants her anymore tbh
what do you expect?
-dendro, which is the current fad, doesn’t need her
-Ayaka powercrept her ages ago
-Her venti comp is already long forgotten
-she doesn’t have good roles in the story other than be a background
-Most mobile players don’t like her
Just look at her sales. It was only kokomi who carried her because of her new found relevance with dendro.
Mihoyo put brought her when there was a drought of good units. That is that reason why she was still regarded as great. She is good, but she had already become replaceable now that there are far far better alternatives to her.
Freeze Ayaka > Freeze Ganyu
Childe International > Melt Ganyu
She’s just mediocre nowadays.
While she certainly isn’t the best in teams anymore, her large power in all teams, even as a support, means she is a master of all trades, which is still very valuable. Also, most people have a lot of good wanderer’s pieces. This makes her a very strong f2p option imo, as her versatility allows her to be much more flexible.
Freeze Ayaka < Freeze Ganyu, Freeze Ayaka has long dead time and doesn't work with Rifthound or continous spawn enemies
Childe International < Melt Ganyu, she has higher dps to single target
She's still a beast nowadays.
Your comparison to Ayaka and Ganyu against Rift Hounds is situational. Just because Ganyu excels in that specific scenario doesn’t maker her better overall. The same can be said about Ayaka in the areas where she excels. Against multiple waves of enemies, give Ayaka enough ER, slap Favonious weapons on her supports, and/or use Amenoma, and she can Burst off cooldown.
At this point, it’s just a competition of egos comparing two great characters that excel in different areas. Pick the one you like and suits you most (or use both to tackle various content) and get over it.
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^ Hi, troll. Always a pleasure. ^^
Not you but the person above you is high on copium
Oh, my mistake. lol I’m not sure what “copium” means entirely, but that person I replied to is definitely in some serious denial while grasping at straws.
melt ganyu is only second to raiden hypercarry dps wise…so your claim is bullshit as fuck
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which c is the raiden in ur context? c0? then ayaka would be in the negative spot
Melt Ganyu is just for nuking and it is highly overrated.
It was never been a good team due to its inconsistency and poor energy management. Unless you have C6 Ganyu, fast hands and godly aim like Aliss, it will never be a good thing. That is why most people still prefer national and international teams over melt Ganyu. It is easier and does more damage too. Melt Ganyu was also never had any place in top of meta teams
Sweet paradise it sounds like you can’t aim, l2play. Don’t talk about meta if you have no clue about meta.
Meta is most effective tactic available which makes melt ganyu instantly lose its credibility because it harder to play and very inconsistent
I agree that its harder to play…but its damage is absolutely better than freeze ayaka or any national team except raiden one…the fact that its harder to play is the reason its not as famous as other meta teams…. because most of genshin players are either lacking at playing the game or are mobile players that cant aim
Melt Ganyu in fact is inferior to national and international teams, freeze ayaka, double hydro or even mono geo in some condition
@Sweet Paradise Melt Ganyu has been on top of meta for 2 years are you blind. Just another bad player that cant aim and call the unit bad because of his own terrible aiming
Ganyu was a very meta unit back then. She is on the top of meta before Inazuma act introduced. She is on there not because of her melt team but rather she was there because of her morgana which is the strongest team around that time. But, it’s all changed when Inazuma is released. We have more bosses and enemies that are not pullabe with venti, making her morgana a little bit balanced. She also getting more and more competitors that are just as strong or even stronger than her.
Melt ganyu was not a thing not because it is not strong. It is very strong on its own but in the other side it is also very inconsistent, a little bit clucky to use, easy to get interrupted and bad at regaining energy. Making it struggle on repeating the rotation and end up losing some dps (this is why this team is only good for nuking). Melt Ganyu also shares the same support characters with national and international teams which technically a better option to use because they’re easier, better energy management, more damage and more consistent
@Sweet Paradise look…let me end this shit because its frustrating… damage wise melt ganyu is too strong…you don’t wanna admit its better that ayaka freeze thats on you…i don’t care…but dont talk about energy problem because with only 180 er on xiangling you’re ready to go…second…best team for raiden is hypercarry and it can be used without bennet with kazuha and yae and kujou sara or if you don’t have yae you can use xingque or yelan instead… xiangling is absolutely bad in raiden national because it’s reaction with electro make little enemy’s get shoot to oblivion…this make your benny and xiangling to be free for your melt ganyu or for any other team…period
I will admit if it was really better but in fact it is not. Many TCs has made a calculation on every teams that we had today and Melt Ganyu is always inferior, way more inferior even against her Morgana team. I have no idea how you made a conclusion but it seems like you have a mindset higher damage per screenshot is better than damage per second
And the way you theorize and making calc on melt Ganyu is surprising bad. It is sounds impossible you can do 5CA on single rotation without running out of buff because Ganyu’s CA is actually very slow (without her c6) and the fact you are using diona make it even more suspicious.
Sweet Paradice…its not theory dummy…i dont know why you people emphasize on theory when you can use it in abyss…5 ca is easily possible because her ca take 2.2 second but i bet you either dont own the character that make you instead go and use those stupid theorys or you have skill issue which means you dont shoot ca at the right time and its causes you to shoot your 5 ca out of benny ult…now go and do your theorys…Im done whith these nonsense
Ganyu’s CA actually takes about 1.8 seconds if you’re properly animation canceling, so in fact 6 CAs are doable during Bennett’s burst in traditional Meltyu. 5 is pretty reasonable and gives you some decent leeway. Getting only 4 off is the bare minimum and any less than that and you genuinely suck at the game.
I can’t help but notice that Ganyu’s loudest detractors invariably know nothing about playing her.
People are still comparing characters from gigachad c6r5 300cd 1000 runs youtube videos lol.
ganyu segs
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