Engulfing Lightning
| Live | Beta |
|---|
 | Type | Polearm |
| Rarity | ||
| Base Attack | 46 | |
| Secondary Stat | Energy Recharge | |
| Secondary Stat Value | 12 | |
| Special (passive) Ability | Timeless Dream: Eternal Stove | |
| Special (passive) Ability Description | ATK increased by | |
| In-game Description | A naginata used to "cut grass." Any army that stands before this weapon will probably be likewise cut down... |
| Level | Base Atk | Energy Recharge | Ascension Materials |
| 1 | 46 | 12 | |
| 5 | 62 | 13.9 | |
| 10 | 82 | 16.4 | |
| 15 | 102 | 18.8 | |
| 20 | 122 | 21.2 | |
| 20+ | 153 | 21.2 |     |
| 25 | 173 | 23.6 | |
| 30 | 194 | 26.1 | |
| 35 | 214 | 28.5 | |
| 40 | 235 | 30.9 | |
| 40+ | 266 | 30.9 |  |
| 45 | 287 | 33.3 | |
| 50 | 308 | 35.7 | |
| 50+ | 340 | 35.7 |   |
| 55 | 361 | 38.2 | |
| 60 | 382 | 40.6 | |
| 60+ | 414 | 40.6 |  |
| 65 | 435 | 43 | |
| 70 | 457 | 45.4 | |
| 70+ | 488 | 45.4 |   |
| 75 | 510 | 47.9 | |
| 80 | 532 | 50.3 | |
| 80+ | 563 | 50.3 |  |
| 85 | 586 | 52.7 | |
| 90 | 608 | 55.1 |
Refine Material:  | |
| Refine Level 1 | ATK increased by |
| Refine Level 2 | ATK increased by |
| Refine Level 3 | ATK increased by |
| Refine Level 4 | ATK increased by |
| Refine Level 5 | ATK increased by |
The naginata was a lethal weapon by which scattered dross might be cut away. And the one who wielded that naginata was one who guarded the path to eternity. When the one who stood high above the storm clouds looked upon the mortal world, which she so loved, Seeing their shallow disputes and transient obsessions... Such contentions stemmed from needless attachments and unchecked desire — both enemies of eternity. The wild weeds that disturbed the unchanging world would be swept away by the lightning. "Well then — what sort of Eternity would ███'s eyes reflect?" So asked the clergyperson who sloshed and drank wine with her under the sakura tree in that still-clear memory. What a pointless question. Though the answer she gave them was lost to the alcohol, She had gained the answer countless times in those memories. One must thin fruits to improve their quality, and plants used in dyes must have their flowers pruned. Not a single speck of dross could be permitted in an eternal paradise. "Ah, but even so..." "Using that great blade of light to uproot all obsession and to eliminate the possibility for dreams to take root and wither by themselves..." "A tranquil world that brooks no dispute, no gain, or no loss... It shall be an amnesiac world, lost to itself." In the heart of eternity, those old friends still appear so clear and the scent of the sakura remains so fresh. But I will never forget you, just as I will not forget the things that were lost across the years. After all... Having witnessed the pitch-dark annihilation consume those precious to her, How could she not see the absurd nature of life and death, yes, incomprehensible destiny itself, as her mortal foe? But since no one can overturn the impermanence of the world, and the barren nature of this game, Then let the eternal euthymia within her heart carry forth into the nation she loves. |
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You get the extra 30% ER AFTER you use your burst right? So does the 30% extra ER you get from Raidens burst counts toward the initial slash (or in her burst state in general) ? From the way the passive is worded, it seems like it doesn’t count ?
it count right after you press Q
even lvl 1 does so much damage lol
https://youtu.be/Zi-B-MOKrg4
This is going to rerun with the donut, isn’t it…
It looks like it… Hopefully they change it, otherwise I don’t think it’s worth risking for wishing on it yet and getting the donut.
It’ll be perfect for me since I have both Ei and Koko <3
I have both too but i need Ei’s weapon because i want to use the catch with xiangling.
So like, I have 269% energy recharge on my double ATK% Raiden, the crit rate and crit damage is also good but I cannot get good energy recharge and good electro goblets, should I stay with double ATK then even if it is like the worst of the four main stat combos?
Just keep farming emblem anyways, a lot of characters want that set so you can get more artifacts for other charactesr while farming for raiden
hey, i have 203.2 ER on Baal. My Atk is increase by how much with that ?
each 100% of your energy recharge increases your attack by 28% so since you have 200% you’ll gain 56, 28+28=56% attack increase; same as mine.
the base 100% er doesnt count. so he only get 28% atk increase.
203.2 – 100 = 103.2 x 0.28 = 28.896 % of your base atk ..
take note base atk not total atk ..
yea but remember u also get 30% energy after using burst so if you have 203.2 energy recharge you will be having 233.2 energy recharge during burst which is 37.2% attack, now i have 227.1 energy recharge the 30% extra would give me 257.1% after using burst thats like 44% attack almost a attack% goblet right there
How much ER do i need to get the max value of the spear ?
386% R1, 250% R5
R5 is wrong. 314% er (including base) needed to get 120% atk .
That’s only if you don’t proc the passive, which gives another 50% ER after using the burst, reducing the cost to about 265% ER.
LMAO dude, I’m happy got the engulfing in 30 rolls, it fits nice with my Shogun but this weapon is way too specific outside of her but it brings C0 Shogun with this to a pretty reasonable dps level so I guess it’s worth, still it is probably better to just wait for a homa rerun.
Engulfing is better than Homa on Raiden Shogun. I tested it and my Engulfing R1 Lvl 80 is doing around 4% less damage than the R1 Staff of Homa. Ult doing 270k on Homa and Engulf does 260k. BUT considering how much ER you are getting is insane from Engulfing. So Engulfing is just so situational on her but so good. I would say Homa is better overall for future investment evert time considering how much value you always get out of it.
i love seeing idiots like you get proven wrong when things actually get released
Ive used 156 wishes on this
not a single one
2 unforged
0 engulfing
i am dying mentally
The next will be at 100% Engulfing Lightning, i know the pain …, this banner took me 142 wishes away for the Raiden weapon and i was i think 3 in pity so a total 145 wishes in the banner
This happened to me also. I decided to keep going even if it meant spending some money and blowing my glittering things. 20 more and I got it. When you’re 156 wishes and 2 fates in, you have to finish it
smile theres The Catch just Fish and relax
you have to commit and swipe a bit more… just according to mhy plan.
1 x10 and got it 😀
Me who got it in 20 pulls-
my wallet was literally crying when i tried gettting this on HARD pity. 2 unforged just sitting in my invo…
how good would this be for xiao ? just pulled the weapon but i also have a R1LVL90 Deathmach and a R1LVL90 Blackcliff Pole ? also if it isnt good is this good for xiangling ?
Deathmatch and Blackcliff are definitely better options for xiao, but it is a top tier weapon for xiangling and it’s even better if you plan on using a 4 piece emblem of severed fate
Aside from visuals, Xiao doesn’t need this weapon at all, both Deathmatch and Blackcliff are better fitted for him. As for Xiangling, right now I believe it’s her best in slot weapon especially with full emblem set
Do your research in places dedicated to calculating your question. Here, we can all have an opinion without knowing anything.
Oh your Excellency, the Almighty Narukami Ogosho. Grant my wish for R1 Engulfing Lightning as I enter soft pity.
please grasscutter I want aaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
Both CNY weap banners were awesome. Jade spear + jade cutter and WGS + Homa. Nothing will ever exceed these two banners. Closest one would probably be the 5* non skyward book + skyward harp. Anything with skyward sword / claymore / spear are practically trash.
Remember fellow f2p/welkin spender…
Weapon is replaceable,
constellation is eternal..
remember…
Man, wish I’d read this before, I tried and got the Unforged T_T now I’m sad and with no chances to get contellations for neither Raiden or Sara…
i am F2P and pulled this weapon and luckey enough i got it i am litrally crying right now
How good would this be on like Xiangling?
Bad advice. Weapon is useable on all future characters, constellations are stuck on one.
you replied to the wrong comment TK you fool
That guy got served
Do we know as a matter of fact that the 30% ER buff for R1 or 50% ER for R5 activates prior to the initial slash?
This kind of weapon is always optimised for that specific character, so I’m 100% certain that the ER Buff is as soon as you enter burst, just like the Mistsplitter.
The world ain’t all sunshine and rainbow. Get used to it. Stop whining. If you don’t want to roll, skip it.
100 ER base + 55.1 ER from this weapon + 32 from Raiden + 20 from 2P emblem set bonus + 51.8 from ER Sans = 258.9 ER (this is assuming you didn’t roll a single ER sub stat in your Artifacts. This weapon at R1 will give around 44.492 attack% bonus. And at R5, it’s 88.98 attack% bonus.
So, in simple terms, this weapon allows you to run an ER sans without sacrificing the loss from attack sans. Because, an attack sans gives you around 46.6% Attack and with this weapon, it’s quite easy to achieve 260-270% ER on Raiden without loosing too much stat on other factors. Moreover, 4P Emblem set will give 25% Burst bonus, that’s 64% damage bonus on Raiden’s ultimate. Damn, this weapon is quite overpowered. IMO, it can out scale staff of homa on characters like Xiangling and Raiden.
bro, it says : 28% of ER over the base energy recharge. Read properly.
[ 258.9% Total ER – 100% Base ER ] * 28% conversion = 44.492% Atk bonus at R1
The math checks out mate.
Math properly next time.
Did you read? 158.9 × .28 is 44.429
So ATK sands is still much better, since it’ll be 46.6% + ~30% from ER at R1.
Just something to add in to this almost month old comment is that Raiden Shogun also gets 0.4% electro damage bonus per ER over 100% as well meaning that in the aforementioned setup with 158.9% ER above the initial 100% Raiden Shogun will get an extra 63.56% Electro DMG bonus whereas without an ER sands it would only be 42.84% and then you’d lose the additional stuff from the full emblem set as well as the further additional attack from her the grasscutter
You just forgot the extra ER from when the Burst activate.
To get to the total extra ATK of 120% on R5, you need a total of 314,3 % ER.
With the Weapon on R5 you get 50% ER from the Passive which means you can easily get to 308,9 % ER with it on Baal.
So you need only 5,4% ER on the Substats.
The negative about that is actually that the extra from the Passive is probably not included in the DMG Bonus from the Resolve absorption during Baals Burst.
EA-hoyo has always been a joke, but putting The Unforged with Grasscutter instead of something like Wolf’s Gravestone? Absolutely pathetic.
Atleast both weapon are limited weapon. You need other weapon is Skyward or Wolf’s Gravestone while you can get it when you got off banner?
Would rather get wgs dupe than unforged tbh
realistically, unforged passive works better than WGS
imo the only bad part is only the aesthetic
The only condition is a shield (easily achievable with Zhongli). If you have near 100% uptime with your shield, then you have near 100% uptime with the Unforged passive.. Which is arguably better than Wolfs Gravestone’s which requires the character to hit an enemy below 30% HP to proc it, and has a long cooldown too.
Wolfs is better on non-shielded character. Unforged is better on shielded character.
Well… if the leaks are accurate all I can say is wow… MHY should maybe consider replacing whoever is in charge of banner loadouts. Xinyan on Yoimiya banner and no Rust on weapon banner, and now we get The Unforged with Grasscutter. What an absolute joke. IDK if this stuff is still subject to change this close to 2.1 launch but hopefully MHY have the good sense to swap the unforged out for something that people will actually roll for lol
Lets hope the leaks are wrong then…
They’re purposely designed for you so that you spend more money on the game. It’s simply not going to be a nutty banner every time. Kazuha banner was the first banner in a long time that was extremely stacked. This is how gacha companies make money.
assuming weapon banners were good at some point
…good one
I mean Homa + Gravestone probably was the best weapon banner still so far
They probably only want whales to spend their shit load of money to the weapon banner for mUh 3/3 ePi whatever guaranteed rather than the low-medium(?) spenders but I still think this is a bad decision from the whoever marketing dude is lol
look at all the rages LMAO
imagine thinking they would stack every banner.
Unforged makes total sense once thoma comes out. Just wait.
Thoma is a polearm user
It doesn’t matter who creates the shield for Unforged passive. Just put up thoma shield then switch back to claymore wielder.