MHY is trying to take us down.

Hey, hhw users. So far our hosting provider received a fancy message from MHY legal department.

Hi IONOS-AS staff,We, as the legal department of Shanghai miHoYo TianMing Technology
Co.,Ltd., hereby report an abuse case, relating IP infringement and
phasing, on a website with a domain name registered under your service
(the link is: https://genshin.honeyhunterworld.com/?lang=EN) about
Genshin Impact, a game that we has been developing and operating
continuously and diligently. For your reference, our game is available
online at:https://genshin.mihoyo.com/en/home.According to the law, we own all the copyrighted works related to the
game, not limited the artistic character images, maps and weapons, as
well as all the codes of the game. In the end use agreement between
gamers and us, it is also strictly prohibited to copy, reproduce,
adapt, reverse engineer, decompile, disassemble or otherwise create
derivative works based on any of our services. You could find the
agreement at https://genshin.mihoyo.com/en/company/terms .
The infringement website aforementioned contains and displays openly
the confidential statistics and copyrighted works of our game package
as well as materials that have not even been published by us yet.
Found in the footer of the web page, the website owner also admits by
his/herself that the copyright and trademark rights belong to MiHoYo
Co., Ltd., which means us. Therefore, we require sincerely:Firstly, an immediate intervention or prevention of these infringing
conducts duly.
Secondly, stopping hosting the website or invalidating the link (
https://genshin.honeyhunterworld.com/?lang=EN) ASAP.Thank you.
The Legal Department of Shanghai miHoYo TianMing Technology Co.,Ltd.

Upd 9/10/2021:
It seems cloudflare received a letter too:

Cloudflare received a DMCA copyright infringement complaint regarding:

honeyhunterworld.com

Below is the complaint we received:

Reporter’s Name: Yiwei Yu
Copyright Holder’s Name:
Reporter’s Email Address: [email protected]
Reporter’s Title: Legal Specialist
Reporter’s Company Name: Shanghai miHoYo TianMing Technology Co.,Ltd.
Reporter’s Address: 6F, BLK C4, Shanghai Putian Information Industrial Park, 700 Yishan Rd, Xuhui Dist. Shanghai, Shanghai CN

Reported URLs:

(https://genshin.honeyhunterworld.com/?lang=EN)

Original Work: Genshin Impact is a online game which is created and owned by our company, and we has been developing and operating the game continuously and diligently. According to the law, we own all the copyrighted works related to the game, not limited the artistic character images, maps and weapons, as well as all the codes of the game.
In the end use agreement between gamers and us, it is also strictly prohibited to copy, reproduce, adapt, reverse engineer, decompile, disassemble or otherwise create derivative works based on any of our services. You could find the agreement at: https://genshin.mihoyo.com/en/company/terms.
The infringement website aforementioned contains and displays openly the confidential codes, statistics and copyrighted materials of our game package which have not even been published by us yet. And found in the footer of the web page, the owner also admits that the copyright and trademark belong to MiHoYo Co., Ltd., which means us.

So far MHY asks our web hosting provider to remove the main domain of honeyhunterworld.com, which will obliterate all of my websites and web projects, within 24 hours.

From my side I have few questions to MHY:

1. The whole community uses datamined assets including fandom wiki, various apps and database websites, also including official content creators.
2. Instead of contacting me or us personally, MHY decides to stab our back and solve it without contacting us hoping we will never know (which is not surprisingly, knowing how greedy this company is for money and blackmailing people is a normal thing in their corporation politics)
3. Instead of asking to remove several pages on website, they ask to remove the whole 130k pages website, and all my _other_ web (and game servers actually) projects.

So far I am taking down the website in 24 hours. Stay tuned for further notice, our lawyers will start working on that soon.

From my company name and myself we are very sorry for other content creators and web developers, using assets our team made possible to extract and compile, the data they used to represent, which shows how that exact company is carrying for you (tldr they don’t).

I, personally, as a solo developer and owner of honeyhunterworld.com ask you to share that post, calling MHY to publicity.

 

Upd 9/11/2021:

So some legal work was made yesterday (and today) and that’s what I have:

1. MHY is enforcing their ToS as regular country law. That is not correct. Terms of Service (ToS) are agreements between end-user and service provider (not even a contract), cancellation of which may stop HoYoLab providing the service (hosting your in-game account). ToS are not actual laws and using ToS as argument in DMCA is a fraud.

2. We raised a question of legality of their ToS since they restrict user to explore and investigate software they provide, thus providing a software requiring Kernel level of access to your PC, being able to gather root information and sending it to a company without any notice to user, removing, changing and modifying core system files, having access to PC logs, running and shutting down other programs, etc.

3. We watermark our images, leading to website that clearly states that those images are subject of copyright of MiHoYo Ltd. So copyright laws are pretty sure correct and fulfilled here.

4. The only rest and actually working argument they have and can force is the ownership of the trademark. Yes, not the unreleased content (we’re not subject of NDA, no one in the team), not the watermarks, not the sounds nor text, the reason is ‘we just want to do so, because we’re authorised owner of TM’. Simply speaking, the MHY tells us:

 

‘We own the game and trademark, so we want you to remove the fansite and stop writing about our game’

 

Honestly, this is a grey area in laws, meaning MHY imply they can cancel anyone, who is doing game related contect, varying from Artists, Designers and Musicians to app and website developers. Thus they consider any content related to Genshin Impact as their own content, so I am very sorry for official and non-official content creators for this game, who may potentially receive the same DMCA complaint we had.

 

5. MiHoYo wanted to solve their issue with our ISP, Ionos, without notifying us, silently, which could make us lose the result of almost a year of developing, all databases and all other projects. Let me explain: genshin.honeyhunterworld.com is not a domain, this is a subdomain, so to disable subdomain according to US laws you have to revoke the whole domain registration within 24 hours, atop of which they asked of removal the whole server data. This is some fraud company politics going on here, I don’t even want to think, why they suppose we don’t keep backups.

 

So far I still negotiate stuff with Ionos, the only compromise solution is to close the project or move the registration out of US.

Again, I hope my and my team experience will make other content creators for this game to think, what company they’re dealing this, since MiHoYo think they can recall the results of years of your work just because they own the trademark.

Upd 9/11/2021:

Ionos gives us few days more to transfer. We’re migrating to DMCA ignored hosting.

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    • Support on 17 September 2021 at 6:25 am
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    Why are you all using this website ,why are you all playing this game? Leave? But here you are, not using a less greedy and toxic website and not playing a less greedy and toxic game. You disagree with this statement? Well what we are not allowed to write anything negative about honey or mihoyo?

      • Anon on 17 September 2021 at 1:26 pm
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      nothing wrong about thinking negatively about mihoyo and honey, but i feel like there’s better stuff to do besides writing negative comments about them. I’m not trying to defend honey and mihoyo but there’s nothing beneficial about writing them.

    • Jhynx on 13 September 2021 at 8:15 am
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    Of course the footer issue (as posted below for anyone who missed it) was a slip-up
    But considering the fact that this is purely a display of company greed and the bullshit that is DMCA claims, i can understand the reason for such an impulse decision.
    Glad they’re still up.

    • YanfeiMain on 13 September 2021 at 5:13 am
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    Thanks for taking down the footer! It wasn’t a great look and I‘m happy it’s gone.

    • footer best on 13 September 2021 at 4:32 am
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    i love the footer, good job

    • Period on 12 September 2021 at 10:15 pm
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    You are literally making money off someone else’s work. If the company wants to protect their assets, they have a right to. It’s like you people taking someone else’s idea and selling it as your own. If you want to quit the game just cause a site like this goes away. Do it. No one would care.

    • Kanishak Chauhan on 12 September 2021 at 7:50 pm
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    YAAAAAAY Best site back :). Fuck you mihoyo

    • Even when you win, you still lose. on 12 September 2021 at 7:35 pm
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    Went from so happy you moved your domain to never coming back here again.

    Genshit Infarct™ is a registered trademark of MeMeHoYo Co., Ltd.

    This website is made for educational and research purpose (and us, eating macaroni). Images and data belong to decaying mind of mentally unstable game designer, considering himself a brain-damaged horse suffering from PTSD syndrome, caused by multiple copium infusions and are pretty fictional. Any similarity of names, data or images with resources of gambling waifu game with 3+ ESRB Rating, developed by some third party company, whos whole legal department can’t make a clear paragraph in English, are entirely coincidental.

    Country flag icons are subject of free Flaticon license, made by Freepik

    © 2021 Honey Impact – Genshin Impact DB and Tools.

      • KonKon on 12 September 2021 at 9:09 pm
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      byebye 🙂

      • this guy is hillarious on 16 September 2021 at 10:37 pm
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      I was actually laughing reading the note. I see no issues other than the possibility of being sued back for that. I don’t understand why people snapping on that lmao.

    • Scribble Man on 12 September 2021 at 7:27 pm
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    LMAO people are actually defending a site that makes 5 figures on beta content. Implying they are not breaking any laws by publishing unreleased content because they didn’t sign an NDA, despite the very reason the information ended up in their hands was via violation of such an NDA and the content still being protected by copyright.

    They are also mocking the devs as if they were at fault someone came and plastered watermarks on beta content as if they have some ownership over them and getting angry for a cease and desist but instead just moving away to keep publishing such content and profiting, this is madness lmao.

      • ChineseWinnie on 13 September 2021 at 12:02 am
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      imagine defending a billion dollar company that doesnt give 2 fucks about you while raging against a fan site that is designed to help players

    • T on 12 September 2021 at 7:24 pm
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    wtf, if you dont want to use this website just stop it, this website helped many people. Also, what do you mean with “someone else´s hard work”, they just collect information and put them on this website, the wiki also do this

    • do better honey. on 12 September 2021 at 7:22 pm
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    I was honestly a supporter of this site until I watched Atsu’s video. I was rooting for y’all to get back your website and stay operating, but after reading the footnote, it’s clear to me that the people behind this project aren’t worth supporting.
    What the devs did was shitty, but justifying racism just because you’re angry is gross. Be better, honey impact, and own up that what you did was immature, downright stupid, and alienating. You need all the support you can get right now, and if you keep going down this path, the people who are defending you and keeping your project alive aren’t going to be able to protect you

      • KonKon on 12 September 2021 at 9:23 pm
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      Atsu is racist with his own race. Just stop.

        • ShiroDevi on 15 September 2021 at 12:43 pm
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        I- 💀

        • breadbtw on 16 September 2021 at 8:06 am
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        what

        • phew on 16 September 2021 at 11:01 pm
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        yes

      • What's wrong with you on 13 September 2021 at 3:59 am
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      Dude seriously, like how old are you? You were fine with the leaking which is the main issue but suddenly snapped out because a nerdy idol streamer of yours made an irrelevant remark on how a sentence this site wrote can be interpreted as racist? Like you need a fucking role model and a fucking life asap.

      • Kalyan on 13 September 2021 at 7:44 am
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      You can comeback I think

    • Open your eyes. on 12 September 2021 at 7:11 pm
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    MiHoYo be like: dont leak!!! Just get the code of our game. (First and last objective: $$$)
    Your Boss: take the key of the Bank but not steal money.
    Clowns or the enitre circus?
    I love the way they try to not lose a 0.01% of their sales.
    MiHoYo you are born yesterday? This is the world of gachas :). 10 years of content? Doubt.

    100 primogems OMG MiHoYo WOW, they’re so GOOD WOWWWWW. God why… open your eyes on these ningens.

    • 早坂愛 on 12 September 2021 at 6:50 pm
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    Remove all the ads and I’ll probably agree with what you said, Hon.

      • Jesus on 12 September 2021 at 8:24 pm
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      You realise all content creators also profit from this game right? Its not just Honey, so I dont know why are you only redirecting your hatred towards them. Keep licking Mihoyo’s boots. They might give you 5 primogems in return ahah

    • WILLwww on 12 September 2021 at 6:50 pm
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    Indeed it’s bad for leaks. But these leaks helps me to make better plans. Glad u survived 😛

    • sara haver on 12 September 2021 at 6:49 pm
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    yay welcome back honey!! you were missed <3

    • whoknows on 12 September 2021 at 6:48 pm
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    hey um honey hunter, just saying but this is not cool and might ruin your reputation. i used to use the site for information but looking at it now, i was shocked and sad to know i was supporting children who throw tantrums and handling the situation unprofessionally. yes, your site is the go to place for those who want to plan their gaming, and i might still use it, but if you were ever to be taken down, a lot of people will be glad. again, i may the only one offended by your actions as a “fan” of the game, and a lot of people will make fun of me for ranting at a comment section instead of face to face, but i was just too disappointed, my fav site is being like this? hurmmmm

      • 123 on 12 September 2021 at 9:36 pm
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      I don’t think it will ruin their reputation, and they probably worked professionally behind the scenes. They must have been frustrated, which is normal since Mihoyo wanted to take almost a year of work and toss it down the drain. However their response (of what they told us) did seem a little petty. I can’t say what they said above is very professional, and it was glaringly obvious whoever typed that above was very pissed off. So I am not disagreeing with you, rather I agree with you. I do think you exaggerated a little bit, but I can understand why you think that way. Hopefully I worded this correctly as bad wording can cause great misunderstandings. Have a nice day! 😀

    • Toma on 12 September 2021 at 6:38 pm
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    Poeple who are commenting bad a bout the website, WHY ARE YOU EVEN HERE !!!

      • Pepega on 12 September 2021 at 6:49 pm
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      heh

      • pldanny on 12 September 2021 at 6:53 pm
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      ehe

      • uwu on 12 September 2021 at 9:37 pm
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      te nan

      • Ending on 17 September 2021 at 6:29 am
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      What’s wrong with negative opinions? Same logic with playing mihoyo games, we can say bad things about it all we want. Or are you one of those ppl who only think ppl should kiss ass to mihoyo and honey. Where do you think ppl should put there critique and complaints ? Keep it to themselves. My child… if that happened this drama would have never existed and all of you can drone about being slaves to both honey and mihoyo.

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